GE, Lutron, and Leviton Smart Wall Switch Review | DIY Smart Home Guy

Hi again John Stone your DIY smart home
guy alright, enough of that anyway today we’re going to be looking
at the GE Leviton and Lutron smart wall switches we’re going to take a look at both the
dimming and the non dimming models it’s important to understand what kind
of wall switch you need. For example, do you need a dimming switch or a
non-dimming switch. And if you think you need a dimming switch, will the circuit
you’re trying to control even handle a dimming switch. The other thing you need
to be looking for is the appearance of the wall switch or the look of the wall
switch there’s two types, one is a paddle style
and the other is a toggle style it’s going to depend on what you already
have in your house or what you’re trying to go to for what look you want to go
for. For me a big consideration was the wall switches that i have in my house
already now i’m not going to be actually
installing any switches in this video so be sure to subscribe to my videos so you
can see the installation process in the next video or two that will be up coming
in the next week or two but go ahead and hit subscribe that way we’ll get the
notification that the videos are ready so the first two switches we’re going to
look at are the standard GE and standard Leviton paddle style non deming Z-wave smart switches. Both
switches look like normal paddle style switches. Both have small Z-wave
indicator lights that illuminate when the light is off this makes it easier to find the switch
in the dark. Both will work manually even if the smarts wish i was offline.
And both fit into a standard wall switch box The GE switch always rest in the neutral
position halfway between on and off. when you
press the top of the switch it turns the light on and pressing the bottom of the
switch turns light off pretty simple. In both cases this is a
spring-loaded action and the switch always returns to halfway or neutral
position. So the disadvantage of this is you can’t just look at the wall switch
and tell if it’s in the on or off position. You’re going to have to rely on
the light you’re trying to control or the indicator light on the run of the z-wave switch. The Leviton
switch on the other hand, always rests in the on position. This is true regardless of if the light
is on or off. Turning devices on and off is always performed by pressing the
bottom of the switch. The action you would normally perform to turn the light
off. And just like the GE switch the Leviton only allows you to tell the
state of the switch by looking at the indicator light on the front which for
the Leviton is green, or to look at the light is controlling. Again this only
matters if the light you’re trying to control isn’t working and you’re trying
to figure out if the light bulbs burt out or you have a power outage or if the switch
itself has a problem. now I don’t like the left and switches
much because my brain is conditioned to push up for on and down for off I only have one of these switches in my
house and I’m always pushing it on the wrong side of the switch trying to turn
my laundry room light on. So the next two switches that we’re going to look at are
going to be the GE paddle dimmer and the Lutron dimmer. One thing i like about the
GE dimmer switch is that it looks exactly like the non dimming switch so again in my house all switches look
exactly the same. To dim or brighten the light you simply long press the switch to
control the dim level tapping the switch down quickly or up
quickly turns the light off or on respectively depending on what you’re
trying to do. And when you turn it on by tapping it it always is going to resume to the last
level of brightness that the switch was at before you turn it off. Now the Lutron
dimmer has a more robust set of features when you look at the light switch itself there’s actually four push buttons on it
and it has seven LED lights the switch is flat unlike the GE switch
two of the switches control the on and the off, while the middle two increase and
decrease the brightness. The small LED lights indicate the level of brightness.
All in all it’s an elegant switch. So i gotta say that I like these dimmers
equally but i have each one in a specific location for a specific purpose.
I rarely control the switch manually since my smart home configuration
controls on off brightness and whatever i need depending on what’s happened inside my house during the course of a
day. For example, it always turns on at sunset to fifty percent brightness. When
the front door’s unlocked or opened, it instantly turns on bright. Locking the
front door will turn the light back to fifty percent after 60 seconds. When I
use my Amazon Echo to control my TV scene, it automatically reduces it to the level
that i want for my watch TV anyway. So I really don’t care about the function of
them the manual functions of the switch as much as I care about the fact that a
Z-wave integrating in with my home automation and then I can control it
with my Amazon Echo. So really it’s only the look that I care about and that it
matches the rest of the look at my house So my bar light dimmer on the other hand
that’s a different story my bar is a far more social area and i
run a higher risk of having somebody that’s not familiar with my smart home
wanting to control the light. The lutron dimmer is very intuitive and pretty much
anybody can walk up and stare at it for about two seconds and figure out how to
dim or un-dim the lights or turn them on or off unless of course it is my bar and
they’ve been drinking then all bets are off so all in all I like all the switches
that I talked about today. But because of the look that I’m going for my house in
the experience that I’m going for I plan to stick with the GE switches. I
will sprinkle in the Lutron here and there as i find the need for it. But
that’s going to be few and far between the GE is very nice which but they’re
all very nice witches i also found that all of these switches
integrated perfectly with my amazon echo I went perfectly into the groups and
giving the voice commands through Alexa was very easy. So that about wraps it up
for today don’t forget to press like and also
don’t forget to subscribe so that you can make sure that you catch that next
video we’re actually install these switches Cheers

41 thoughts on “GE, Lutron, and Leviton Smart Wall Switch Review | DIY Smart Home Guy

  1. Hi, review is fine. BUT– People BEWARE when buying any of these "smart" switches! Whether it is the flip or paddle style, they are NOT going to work normally like a regular flip or paddle switch. If you try to use the "flip" switch, they do NOT flip up or down like a normal switch. You have to "toggle tap" it up for on, and "toggle" it down for off. But the switch stays in the center position , and looks like it is broken. The worst part is that if you have these new switches mounted alongside a normal switch, they look re-tarded! I can't tell you how many people have tried to turn on a light and thought the switch was broken. This is the same for the "paddle" style switches, they stay in the middle. There is no reason these companies can't make these switches work just like a normal switch and have them stay in the up or down position while still having the "smart" automation features added. The only way the companies will fix these switches, is if we refuse to buy them.

  2. Does all this switches have batteries inside ? Or how does the leds get turned on, if so, in how much time do you have to change the batteries ?

  3. Here is my question. I purchased a GE Smart Switch . Now I want it to work with Echo.. I have a Honeywell Thermostat I control with Echo. I have a wall plug I control with TP-Link. And bulbs I control with OSRAM. Now hooking up this new wall switch who will pair with it.. Hope I don't need another WiFi hub.

  4. Thanks I purchased a Wemo switch it connected directly to my home internet router.

  5. Quick question about use without a hub active. In the video you mention both non dimming GE and Leviton paddle switches will work without a hub connected. Does this apply to the dimmimg GE and Lutron switches as well? If my internet went out, yet still had power, I want to still have control of my lights at night. thanks!

  6. Hi John,
    I'm stuck with a problem. I want to change my regular switch to a smart switch, so I can use it with Amazon Echo. The problem is that I do not have NEUTRAL WIRE in my home. I see all of the smart switches requires a neutral wire. I only want to switch on and off. Is there another switch that doesn't requires a neutral wire? thank you!

  7. Hi,
    nice videos and reviews.
    got 2 questions 🙂 if you can answer or give me any advice

    1- was looking for smart outlet or switch to control electrical ranges (switches most they are built for 110 v and not 240v) any idea ?

    2- the other questions, witch cam you are using or suggesting for win hub ? (indoor or outdoor )


  8. Hey John, Great vid! Just 1 question…do you remember if all these switches require a nuetral wire and if so can you recommeded that doesnt. Thanks Freddy

  9. Hi John, 2 questions please.

    1. If I have 3 switches controlling 1 light (3 3-way switches), can I replace just one of the existing 3-way switches with the GE Smart switch? Or do I need to by a GE Smart switch and 2 add on switches and change all 3 existing 3-way switches?
    2. Do you recommend the GE Smart switch over the WeMo smart switches by Belkin?

    Thank you.

  10. What happens when you replace one of the switches on a three way switch with GE's smart switch and don't replace the other switches with GE's add-on switch? Do the other switches still control the device, or does the smart switch then become the only functional switch on the circuit? Awesome and very informative video btw!

  11. I am curious how the GE models work if you have 2 switches on same circuit. Example I have a switch at top and bottom of stairs ect.

  12. do the plum switches work with androids? please help me !!!

  13. Thanks for the great overview. I will hopefully post a little Tips & Tricks overview of a few things I wanted to highlight about Lutron's RadioRa2 system soon. There are a few things that I like about Lutron better than the GE:

    1. I like Lutron's satin texture plastic. For an upgrade, you can go to the architectural switch style which has squared off and beveled corners on the trim plates. I think the satin plastic finish is more common on the higher end dimmers (Control4, Crestron, Lutron) and less common on the ones available more widely (Cooper, Leviton).

    2. Your application is a bit different than mine, and GE seems to work great for you. You use it more to automate things. I use RadioRa2 mainly for scene control in rooms that have a lot of dimmers. The problem that RadioRa2 solves for me is that the all the dimmers are in sync, so when I press the scene button the lights all come up and go down at the same time, which I really like. I don't really use tie ins with security systems or voice commands for automation (some simple timers), but just like the scene control and all on / all off functions for the house.

  14. I got the Lutron Caseta because of all the features and I really like the push button over an older analog flip switch look. To save money I only used Castela on the outlets I need wireless, all my other switches I am slowly changing to Lutron Maestro because they match pretty close the Caseta line when it comes to the look and touch button feel.
    I really like the fact that Lutron integrates with Siri, have geofencing, pico remote to put by my couch or even put in other walls where the is no switch. I would like to know about the other manufactures features in comparison in one of your other videos.
    Also Lutron has a Pro bridge that lets them integrate withe even more. It's not Z-Wave but I have had no issues on range or anything, I will probably get a Samsung Smart bridge over their pro-bridge to connect all my non-zwaves(Echoee/Lutron) and my true zwave devices together into one system like my Alexa does.

  15. I have a 4 way switch. 3 separate switches to turn one light or in this case a ceiling fan on/off. How would this install be different from the 3 way shown?

  16. Great review, thank you! Have you been satisfied with the long-term reliability of the GE switches? I really like their simplicity, but the reviews on Amazon for nearly all of their smart dimmer versions have about 10% negative comments, many indicating failures after relatively short life spans and poor customer service.

  17. Do you find it difficult when using manual determining which GE switches are dimmers and what are not dimmers?

  18. Great videos, all of them! Do you know if this GE smart switch (non dimming)you reviewed will work with small under cabinet fluorescent light fixtures as on/off only?

  19. John Stone, you may want to add that the Lutron Caseta switch/dimmer does NOT require a Neutral switch, which make a great convenience for light switches that do not have one. The GE & Leviton BOTH require a Neutral

  20. The information you are providing about the position of the Leviton Switch when is on or off  is incorrect. Leviton Z-wave, Wi-Fi ( no need for Hub) or Apple Home Kit remain in a neutral position when light are on or off.

  21. Can you please recommend a smart lock to work together with those smart switch? Thank you.

  22. Bought tons of GE switches too, the lag for turning it on could be really annoying for somebody. It's at least a solid half sec. Not a dealbreaker for all, but definitely something you need to keep in mind when shopping. Of course, GE's require neutral wire, keep that in mind.

  23. Hi Everyone,
    Theres an UPDATEto this video here:

    It adds the Zooz z-wave plus smart switch to the comparison. If you are not familier with the Zooz switch, you can use a normal 3-way switch as the add-on switch. Cheers

  24. Are there any smart switches that doesn’t require a neutral wire? I’ve been looking for one everywhere but it doesn’t seem to exist.

  25. does lutron now have dimmers that work with alexa without having the smart bridge from lutron or another hub

  26. you talked about the Leviton switch, but not the Leviton dimmer… thats what I came here for

  27. Also, you didnt mention that the Lutron dimmer requires its own hub… on top of the other hubs I already own (Hue, SmartThings)…

  28. Do you need a hub to get the switch working or do the switch have a built in wifi?

  29. Thanks for the help cause I’m planning on going to smart switches rather then the bulbs 💡 mainly because of the switch it self gets turned off your “SOL” to turn the light back on. I like the GE switches in this video cause it’s a rocker switch and stays in the middle after turning the light on or off so your mind will know to where to hit the switch in the dark. The blue light on the box is a nice touch as well

  30. Watching your video I assumed the lutron was z wave technology. I ran out and purchased it, got home and set it up, only to find out it didn't work with my z wave control system.

  31. Have you done a review of the Ge motion switch/ and or dimmer wall switch?

  32. Are you able to install a European style light switch in the States? I just like the way they look and when we remodel I would do it then.

  33. My ge switch led indicator turn on when the lights are turned on. This happens after you paired them with smartthings. Before pairing led it's on when lights are off. Any suggestions how to change it?

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