HRN 273: FEMA – Go BIG, from the 2016 DCC on HamRadioNow


this is ham radio now episode 273 is from the ARL and tapper 2016 digital communications conference last September in st. Petersburg Florida this is from FEMA talk from a feeling official go big go early go fast be smart and I’m gonna room for all of that down there i just did the go big part but that’s the official name of the entire talk I’ve got a mind my manners this is this is a federal case with this is this is a big deal i’m gary Pierce k & 4aq your post here on ham radio now now most of you probably know that the FEMA director is Craig Craig Fugate is a ham kk 4i NZ and you might have come across his talk at the mawl National Convention 2014 good evening in 1987 I was a lieutenant with fire rescue and so that talk he gave a lot of background how you got to be a ham and you know he had us on the head a lot it wasn’t a deeply operational talk you know nothing in terms of logistics and how we go about doing things his hands and then FEMA but I’m you know it’s mostly it was a Aquino so at the tapper digital communications conference there was another guy from FEMA may not come as a surprise to know that their chief technical officer that is terracotta is also AM he is ok for h&L think the hnl might refer back to his roots in Hawaii it might be a Honolulu thing not sure so he he gave the the talk at the DC it’s not a deeply technical talk and it is also not an operational plan or you know logistics and and stuff like that it but it is not a big pat on the head is not just him telling us what great job we all do more of a high-level overview of a lot of things about ham radio and FEMA he gets into his own background some how I got interested in ham radio and then really interested kind of thanks to Craig but a lot of competition for upgrading licenses between him and Craig I so ham radio gets threaded in and out of the the talk and it will end though with a sort of a technical call to action for hands to create and develop technology and software things like that for working in emergency communications and with the amount of things that they do i’m looking to make our contribution even stronger he wants to see us wants to see us innovate so that is what’s coming up in this talk arm as usual with the the DCC the videos they are brought to you by you but they are brought to you primarily by the hams that contributed to the Kickstarter that got me down there and in that Kickstarter i have the three corporate contributors and they begin with tapper itself still doing the pandora HPS dr mean look at the conferences there for tapper for a second okay see they may along with a double RL sponsor of the digital communications conference this is from the last one back in Florida but the next one they’re thinking is going to be out west I’m leaning toward seattle again very successful conference on CL couple years ago the leaning that direction they have a meet up at a decision yet and they won’t for some months but you’ll find out about it but that’s the direction are leaning and so they they are sponsoring the videos as well as one of the corporate contributors so if you are interested in anything digital and AM radio and I suppose you are if you’re watching these of these programs stop I tapper papr do our G and they would encourage you to become a member and support all stuff that they do second we found this guy it is Judd and so our thanks to a corporate underwriter choose from node systems limited is callsigns rm1 tup Mike 1pu Papa Papa and 2e1 bxw shud is london based in the UK he works on worldwide projects providing technical project management design and build in telecommunication systems security systems Scota command and control systems mostly in the police ambulance and rail sector and this is a Twitter page good place to find them you can contact my email it will be chud CH UD at node systems and oh de sys TEM s dot co dot u K or you can follow him here on Twitter at node systems so thank you chuck sorry we missed you for the first round of programs better that we got you in on this one and finally we had that fella that recommended that you give a kid a book wanted to be anonymous system he was but this idea was to promote getting young people in the am radio and said you know maybe like a given the book well I went and did a program about that I didn’t label it with an episode number but I did stick it online on Facebook think I did it on Facebook live and I stuck it on youtube I called it kids these days and it attracted a lot of comment i’m basically saying I would like you guys to give me ideas for how to fill this little short segment of the introductions to the tapper conference programs along the lines of how do we introduce am radio to young people get them interested to get the young people who would have a bent out an inclination toward ham radio let them know that we’re here and what we can do so that if they are potential hands to get the word and follow through on that potential got a lot of stories are a few specific ideas that i can relate right now a lot of stories I gotta work with a little bit to get them into this short segment which have already gone way over time on but the first one that i want to present is um is this one somebody pointed out this podcast series it’s called hak5 I was aware of them I didn’t know a lot about them adjust that they existed read it and then you can type in what you and then a little something back up here with CW and linux what does that mean we are sending and receiving Morse code with our computer sound card this time on hak5 yep so that is Shannon Morse there are no relation to the Samuel more so as far as I got kitchen my name is shannon moore get your weekly dose of technologists welcome we are fairly she just got her hand license excited about this we had a fantastic time at their beak on if you get the opportunity definitely need to hit up that conference so much fun and lots of really cool things to do there outside so again she just got her hand license since we’ll talk about that in this episode you know no I got my ham license right yeah amateur radio license I can’t have to say my from the FCC so i’m super excited about that yeah and it was kind of hard because I didn’t study so i did for the first time so I a program like that with hosts like that enthusiastic young interested they they may be an apt rate for young people that you are interested in technology in general and arm might not know very much about ham radio or say things just old people stuff these guys I think will help make them realize that there’s a lot of ham radio for younger people as well so hak5 as a podcast is a show good place to point the finger people to also finally our business sitting back there behind me there is for those of you that didn’t get in on the the kickstarter and want to help contribute Kickstarter went a long way to get be down to st. Petersburg and getting back here what is not covering is the time to produce these programs that to get them edited and get them online it it did all the stuff of getting me down there to shoot them back so I’m still need a little bit more help stop by ham radio now dot TV go to the bottom of the webpage click on Arbenz icon and you can make a contribution through patreon through our a credit card or through paypal patreon is a subscription everything else is just a one-time deal and appreciate the folks that the Kickstarter appreciate the folks to make the individual contributions thank you all very much keeps me going with this series of programs couple other quick things to note coming up right after this one this is FEMA so that’s it Sam come oriented program going to do another em come extra after Matthew aftermath you gonna be episode 274 actually got it all recorded I gotta headed it get it online will do that shortly after i get this one going so lots more mcom coming up here on camera do now for you mcom fans and I guess that’s it think i’m ready to go let’s head down to st. Petersburg Florida from the middle of September 2016 ste Bible do the honors please so the only thing between you and launches Ted no pressure no pressure here but i think this is going to be very well worth it I gave Teddy a phone call and said Ted that you’re coming down Ted is the chief technical officer of FEMA so this is going to be a really exciting talk he’s gonna really I I think he’s going to really encourage us here so i think he’s got a message we all want to listen to so let’s listen to terra cotta k4 hnl go big go early go fast be smart alright take it away to right thank you very much sir great pleasure and a privilege should be here I brought one of my colleagues here this is there a couple of conferences every year that I enjoy going to and some are memorable this year it was the american meteorological society is conference on hurricanes and tropical weather in Puerto Rico and was really you learn a lot about this and now there’s this whole thing that we’ve we’ve always felt important when you’re when you are within FEMA you know having to deal with multiple hazards that are out there which is you know looking for folks that are fundamentally curious about the natural world and so we are trying to kind of encourage that within the agency itself I I kind of value that as long as well as with another sort of character quality which is compassion those of us who join female we’re expected to you know a be compassionate to those who are suffering a disaster just thinking recently in baton rouge with the significant flooding that was out there I was immediately there soon after the flooding and so it’s a great first privilege to be here I’m k for h&L like a lot of amateur radio operators its collapsed him and back in 1977 I was k6 ipw and took my test at the FCC office with the cassette tape and made novice but just like a lot of hands are united laps and I got enamored with technology and i ended up actually getting into disaster response and and helping with in particular drought and malnutrition in sub-saharan Africa so that’s kind of where I got started as well as around the world with two nonprofit organization so my background is actually in public health and in this field called child survival and maternal child health nutrition and but it was kind of interesting because at as as as it goes in your career path you end up on us look seeing how technology can fundamentally help win in situations and disasters where it can make a difference and so I ended up working for two startups and then one that got acquired by microsoft and end up working for the chief technology officer microsoft and ransom they called Microsoft humanitarian systems and so the first light is just a little bit of a quick speed ahead on what I did am so this is a particular thing that we did we did sort of R&D on how to help synchronize software and collaboration software doing the Pakistan earthquake that was in 2005 in cashmere later you know in in this particular disaster and there’s some sort of toned overtones with how we actually do disaster management in the US what are the things we are supporting the state of Louisiana for example in Baton Rouge is to encourage this thing called shelter in place and that is in fact what they did here during the earthquake this is the onset of winter you can see the tense because a lot of the dwellings were uninhabitable but as long as you can stay near your home and if in effect shelter-in-place the the UN had this particular project called one warm room you know if you had a collapsed structure if you just had one wall in your structure that was ok you could actually build you know some lean-to siding and actually shelter for the winter so that some of the significant damage that occurs in a seismic event of the magnitude killed about 8,000 roughly in and cashmere was Pakistan largest earthquake and and and it was kind of interesting because there are things that even the the international relief system still learns to this day here’s a camp that has sort of original line of tents this is outside of this particular city & kashmir and and yet that that city was actually not very well populated precisely because the smarter thing to do was to locate survivors near their homes where their possessions are and and have them rebuilt even though the the tents or the siding would be would be less than than perfect in a Camp like that so you know even in this in this case you find lessons are still being learned and so there you go so it’s far far better to have survivors participate in their own recovery and those are things that we picked up and this is from back in 205 later uh hurricane ike it hit Texas and this is in Galveston i had the privilege of going there with a disaster response team they there are farms in galveston island it’s not just the resort island and so some of these some of these cattle kind of broke free and we’re kind of wandering the streets with these very nice the beach homes and and vacation homes and got a lot you know a lot of really realization that you know of emergency management is very at least in this nation and is very ground up we call it organic on the organic authorities of local governments you know so fire departments play such a huge role they are the very Adam of emergency management so it’s not like big government sweeps in and solves the problems but you it’s often your local authorities are the best and so we we ended up supporting them in in this particular disaster ok hopefully new management staten island this is the sandy superstorm event you had hurricane-force winds but it was technically categorized as a storm but that this was particularly the hardest-hit areas in the New York Region this was in the new dorp area which is a part of staten island between you know Sally well its father capodanno Boulevard and highland in that air in the nude or high school in this particular Erica particularly hard hit so we’ve been learning ideas about the fact that you know very rarely and I know the the classic cases big government tends to just plod slowly but in the case of FEMA when you think about things that are innovative those lessons are best learned in the field and so when you have you know we’ve had a particular drought of significant disasters in the in the case of uh at least in hurricane disasters we get we have plenty of them at FEMA from fires to floods with hundreds of activations a year but in terms of the really big memorable ones that really shake the nation like the recent baton rouge event you you find in in the press folks talking about hurricane amnesia for example we haven’t had a really big one along some of the hurricane bases along the Atlantic and Caribbean coast and and that’s that’s that that challenges even us as as a government organization to remember that as we build big systems we really need to make sure that they work in the field let me just see if I can advance here let’s see if not I’m going to use the space this is the Far Rockaway ways and some of the damage that occurred to the boardwalk the force of water is powerful and so we tend to underestimate we think of very large storms but even minor floods can cause millions of dollars worth of damage and really disrupt a lot of out of lives as we have seen in baton rouge alright i’m a hand though and I got back into it the administrator of FEMA cray Fugate kk for is said who this amazing speech of the hundredth anniversary remember amateur radio he and I we kind of he got his text ignitions class examine he tells a story about experimenting with crystal sets and I said gosh i was one back in 77 I’ve got to do this too so I i picked up technician and I got general that he got general and and I picked up a bit extra and I know he’s about to get extra at some point very soon and it’s been a wonderful for years because amateur radio operators really are such a significant part of what Kraig calls the whole community and i’m going to illustrate a number of things so this is my little workshop small air yeah i do also use remote rig around the around the house and it’s old Ted can wait for dsat i love wire antennas I remember putting up one and you know it’s amazing a hundred watts and I got Cape Town South Africa on 20 meters when the bands are really opening up 11 after one afternoon it was so wonderful and we trade cards and I’ve got beautiful spruce trees in my backyard so I tell everybody i don’t see trees I see antennas and and I was I and actually there’s a modified g5 RV actually right on the tree where the sun’s creeping out so i just love this hobby and this is my greatest achievement as a hand it’s a coaxial air balance 991 i used an italian design but I really proud of that what and it works well it’s really great it goes into 450 lat online into another dipole i love it so the physics of ferrite core saturation so I’ve gotta an Elmer leak at4re who taught me about that ferrite cores do saturate even at low power so so he said use a air ballon and and I learned a lot of lessons there so in disasters oh no one more slide so I thought that for the rest of my hand life i’m just going to do qrp all the way I just love the ethos I love that guy who does qrp with a bunch of goats up in some mountain in Arizona you can see these videos on youtube I loved all that so I said you know after past elect extra what I’m going to do is get Dave Rutledge’s Caltech electrical engineering class and you eat that that’s a textbook is no longer in print so I picked it up and while you take that class or that you do the book you you build a norcal Fortier so I thought this is going to be the rest of my hand career for the rest of my life and I just you know get back into CW get my speed back up and just do low power but then unfortunately uh I got into Steve Bible and Sultan’s little project and that has utterly disrupted my life so you know you know this is like this is the Denton Texas near Dallas and this is of course an Alex loop and of course you can see the interface there here’s the unit and at it so Herman texas i set it up and then I fell off my chair ok well i commandeer the hotel TV so just FYI it’s nice having a long hdmi cable don’t need to see cable TV so I’ve got a you know you can see that you got top on the on the Left which measures the our current cpu load on that on the Raspberry Pi and then I fell off my chair because I hit at one-tenth of a watt zeal and ZL and I guess right and I was stunned right this is not a lightbulb this is a Christmas tree light bulb right uh and I fell off my chair and I was stunned this is 30 minutes and i had the grey line it was like 530 afternoon etc but I was truly amazed and I i just said this is something here is different than anything that I’ve ever seen in my life you know the thousand-mile club / wat rai I just quickly joined that one right so here you are 13.2 percent not even breaking a sweat on the Raspberry Pi ok it’s not doing anything so I’m going to step back back to emergency management this is what the administrator has always emphasized when you know in in a quick summary of when I major disaster occurs the idea is to secure a scene and this is very similar to fire rescue i was a volunteer in my local fire station in infants County the first thing you learn is you know that you know secure and deny access especially if there’s a hazmat you know the chlorine spill or whatever and and there’s a the very famous orange book that all fire-rescue use which which describes hazardous materials and and so and creates distances by which you need to make sure that that citizens don’t get in to to potentially injure themselves so you secure you also search right so you end up using especially significant disaster urban search-and-rescue teams and and Fire Rescue of course there are always first on scene and then finally to stabilize the scene and those principles in miniature really are the same when a major catastrophic disaster happens it’s just in the case of stabilize it it’s called response and recovery and those recovery efforts could take years in the case of the Northridge earthquake well over 20 years it took to actually complete all the all the assistance that was needed for that particular area to to fully recover and so therefore we often have no choice when we are faced with the with with especially a sudden onset disaster to really effectively and this is the ethos of FEMA which is too i think in previous years when you when you found that the response to a major catastrophic disaster was slowness and and FEMA was roundly criticized for for its speed and responding to the Katrina event for example and an earlier disasters and as the agency has gotten faster we realize that there’s this fundamental need to go being whether whether the the particular community had budgeted or within the catastrophic plan set we need so many let’s say bottles of water or shelf-stable meals-ready-to-eat the the reality is often government comes short and uh and you can’t afford that when when lives are really at stake and lives are disrupted for the survivors so go big go early which is again goes the then the concept of speed go fast obviously in that that goes along with go early but really to wrap this up it it we we need to be smart and that’s what the really the topic of the kind of this presentation is about because i’m wondering whether the community that has built amazing boards like the qrp I mixing in both computer science and amateur radio is at the cusp of something truly great both both for disaster management also for younger generation of hands they’re not growing up with IOT and doing things like robotics and very accessible computing again the challenge for any government agency is do we actually prepare for the disaster that we budget for or the ones that we would actually occur and so in that case since we don’t get time back the administrator has really pushed for this notion of the whole community that is those outside of government right because we live in a great democracy and we have the Tenth Amendment and we tend to support by statute survivors and first responders which means our support for governors and states as a highest priority wee-wee-wee-wee support this notion of the whole community and so therefore volunteers are not a liability there’s often this mistaken notion in emergency management that the folks that come in with HT that well rehearsed in public service amateur radio from a halloween parade all the way to the marine corps marathon in Washington DC and all you know the Boston Marathon amateur radio club is everyone knows there’s an amateur radio club exclusively built for the boston marathon but they were called obviously the stories are now legendary has been documented qsd the heroic work that that that amateur radio club did during the horrific terrorist event that occurred there that is now really dispel the notion right volunteers are not the second disaster and that whole mythology came about because they thought now that the government had to take your survivor somehow that you take care of of lost of volunteers that that were disrupting the recovery operation nothing could be further from the truth that is the that those are now the you know short enshrined principles that that we takes very seriously within FEMA so therefore volunteer organizations like the amateur radio emergency service areas is so critically vital as a partner to amplify the the ability for the the community respond because these are our neighbors these are our friends and these are families there’s another big ethos change within fimo we’re not there for the preeminent disaster management organization we are just a member of the team and this notion that is often preceded this concept you know often that we are told you know it’ll finish not an option that that is true and we have to do our best to ensure that’s not the case but on the other hand there can be a lot of hubris associated with that concept you know in the end we really do just support states cities and individual fire departments which are really at the heart you know if you if you had a house fire and i actually had one years ago you know it’s a disaster for you may not be for many others but for use the worst thing is happening in your life and so thankfully our our local fire departments really are really the true heroes you know they are the atom of emergency management in this nation so what I’m going to talk about is this guy who has really changed my personal view and I think for a lot of the the ethos of going big going fast going smart III love this guy he he passed away a couple years ago seems john-boy he was a bit of a rogue air force you colonel in the Air Force and a lot of you know some of the work he did he created something called the loop and he had very pithy sort of why sayings but he was well known as a fighter pilot who first uh I understood the basics of how to do air-to-air combat he was a he was at Nellis Air Force Base it was the original Top Gun a pilot and and and talk then went on to to fight the bureaucracy in DC essentially and and he had this theory about this idea of of of altitude and and potential energy and how you store energy and release it to get your adversary and and and he had a very very just an amazing personal story but he came up with a number of concepts like the little loop observe orient decide at and when I read this I read this before coming to female and it and I recalled that because when you think about going big go early go fast and smart it kind of mirrored what he said because you know we often observe something that occurs a seismic event maybe an oncoming tropical storm that six or seven days out sort of magma displacement let’s say in the Northwest which my prestigio via potential cataclysmic seismic event you know and then we orient ourselves to that right we determine what it is and and and and and is you know how do you actually dress in the case of voyeurs of Air Force fighter pilot of course you know how to address you know where easy and what is that adversaries air speed etc you make a decision to act and then you actually take the action and often it’s observe orient decide act and it kind of resonated with me recalling the his example because in many ways government tends to do number two and number four really well actually number for it can do very well we can move field trucks to Staten Island we also do number two very well we are in ourselves actually to death right so it’s the paralysis of analysis mostly because we don’t have confidence in number one we’re not sure of our observations were not sure what was that storm actually going to do is 20 inches of rainfall in baton rouge really going to be a significant event i’m not sure some of the experience people say hey heads up i’m not so sure some of the wise owls who are in the local emergency management office in bad news now this one looks pretty bad i think this is going to be a bad one right how do we actually understand that and then you know leading to the fact that we can make confidence decisions when you are paralyzed in orientation you never actually get your decision you decide late and then if you’re not late if you are late that is uh that’s not a great outcome and is that outcome really going to support survivors and that essential to his thinking so applying that to emergency management we said you you observe you have an event characterization so it’s oncoming storm for us we look at consequence models if this hits at this probabilistic inundation surge let’s sit here in Tampa i’m going to be showing you a slide of of the her mind either her mean I can’t even pronounce that name to her mind her main event uh what will they actually do how many people do we need to potentially evacuate when do they need water were the protection shelter areas how do we actually get assistance to them how do we know how many people are insured with flood insurance these are central questions that we often face what’s the consequence finally what are the mechanisms we actually make decisions by you know are we supporting the governor or the in-state emergency manager in their decision and then finally when we kick in when we take an action let’s say 22 to get the Army Corps of Engineers out and deploy and to support the governor just an unfolding environment and that’s what Boyd really looked at is how we would apply that potentially so in effect just go backwards actually i just want to give sit on that for a second there’s another thing that boy also talked about which was so meaningful to me and I just saw that people first but he also said people first idea second and hardware third he he really had it out for some of the bureaucrats that worked in the Air Force design off center at the wright-patterson Air Force Base and you know he really criticize the f4u no phantom because got shot down or Vietnam and and you know and it seemed like it was designed by committee you know is it a close-range bomber or is it a is a air-to-air combat or is it uh you know it’s kind of like Saturday Night Live you know is it as a dirt dessert topping or is it a floor wax I mean you know I don’t know really you know and and and so he said you know it’s you know um youyou must design the airplane for the pilot the warrior because at the end of the day when you strip out all the bombing runs in any and other planes come in at and the most precious thing is that pilot you know that guy’s gotta do air-to-air combat so think of warrior vs warrior in 3-space and forget the plane and that guy has a kill the other guy I or be killed and unfortunately that’s the nature of warfare so he said build it around people people first idea second hardware third and isn’t that so unlike government it’s always the hardware it’s always that the shiny object it’s always about the technology never about the outcome and the result so therefore what are the outcomes we need outcomes for survivors they are there they are what matters there that they are those that this government was was sworn to protect and to to help in in catastrophic disaster what are the policies are these for government that encourage that and finding where the processes and that’s all we particularly map that and this kind of inside ball but that’s kind of how we view it inside we kind of look at this than this way if we produce outcomes for survivors and look at the decisions that are made people ideas and hardware we often look at decisions that you know user experience under stress looking at analytics better to build these in the field where the survivors actually our data from the data and developing sensors that could potentially help them and and I’ll just let you take a look at this little bit it I it’s kind of a shortcut but effectively looking how do we have better even characterization ok this is a particular example I know my time is kind of running short because i want to get to the the the real technical heart we actually build sort of decision tools that take the tool out of the hands of some of the technical subject matter experts have put in the hands of regional administrators and governors and state EMA directors and this is one example in the case of her mind we actually mapped a potential inundation hazard on top of of potential populations and to help decision-making looking at protect particular resources meals and shelter population and so these things tend to aid that decision making we also opened the data up i run a particular project project called open FEMA and those are open API data feeds that we do so anyway strategic inflection point on sensors getting back to the point of the event characterization to recap boy right event characterization consequence model deciding and acting is it time to think low and slow so you look at an event characterization for floods could be precisely measure the flood extent over an existing building footprint this is the hardest problem FEMA foremost emergency managers have to deal with often when a lot of heart problems but this particular one touches so many types of hazards and the floods that come regularly which is how to actually look at the building footprint and what is the extent of the flood and knowing that very quickly so we can send help so flash flooding in urban areas tends to be the a very difficult problem so we asked the question what is a smart city really look like potentially it’s this what if we had sensors that lie dormant but able to quickly characterize an event so low power inexpensive and ubiquitous sensors that don’t say much low speed rate as event characterization does not require verbosity sensors with long-haul low-frequency with long-distance reach back and and and crane said you know you don’t need much data because he he said what if we use the Waffle House index and everybody knows what the waffle houses and they stay open they’ve got kind of a red yellow green index if it will stay open its green if it’s flooded and and powers out it’ll still open think they’ve got this huge wonderful Emergency Management ethos that they will actually get a Bunsen burner Bunsen burner gas burner they make coffee they’ll they’ll sell bagels whatever and they’ll still stay open even though the powers out then of course it is under five feet of water they close so right kind of kind of red yellow and green and we call this sort of the Waffle House index you know red yellow green very simple what what if we did we had that simple Waffle House index at the administrator coin and apply it to a lot of things within our field so Waffle House index that addresses this right who for us it’s amateur radios callsign what red yellow green in binary 1 1 100 100 right regular green and no or uh one that can translate the the whisper protocol from you know made and head to US national grid which is nothing more than the us-nato grid system and when UTC’s times them right they’re very simple what if we could do that so the ideas could we see a potential renaissance of let’s say aprs / hf it’s always been on the high bands i wonder and so does Bob bonita who teaches at the US Naval Academy and we got together a week ago he’s the inventor of a PRS and potentially cross band that to DTMF which he’s also got a very clever means to do that so he came we met a week ago great meeting and he said you know I could actually create maps symbology an aprs because a new kind of instantiation of APR says 2600 symbols at all my goods i didn’t know that my old gold had junkie and he’ll only as a have I didn’t know that and I learned so much about APR is talking to him and he said now we can you know he sent me the slide by the way um uh the this map are you could actually have a red yellow green symbology over let’s say a Red Cross shelter a home a nursing home right what or a fire station or an airstrip or warehouse Wow the possibilities are pretty unlimited so he tells me do we need expensive TNCs anymore you know and we talked a lot about Noah skywarn spotters what about the potential for flood warning spotter and what would that look like he even came up with a very inexpensive flood sensor concept right and feeding into a PRS pretty nifty then cost much and so here’s another sort of kind of interesting use case our this was something that measure about to my attention Syrian refugees ah common are moving and their internally displaced they now approaching a in a displaced camp and because they have an FM radio they use the raspberry PI’s zero and use one of the pins thought kind of a an antenna emitter and were able to broadcast mp3 messages so you can imagine a number of those let’s say for entertainment for children for adults or let’s say instructions for nursing mothers on how to hydrate their their babies very critical when you have a population on the move internally displaced that hydration particularly for children under 5 and babies in particular newborns so critical in a disaster right i FM is a little particular python script that runs that Luke mp3’s for nursing mothers that that would be truly amazing think about application here’s another one is a friend of mine i met Amanda at a conference this guy redbox this guy lives in Hawaii where I grew up in cage six land he has this thing he looks at infrasound so you think about it there are low again low and slow ok so in the hertz uh sub 20 Hertz there’s a whole bunch of things you can you can find out about the world are hurricanes make sounds so does magma displacement so does the weather so does surf for surfers in Hawaii and so do earthquakes and tsunamis so he had this little project it’s an infrasound recorder uses the the microphone on the iphone and you can get at the app store I he was actually using a number of those sensors able to triangulate re-entry of a satellite that was coming back into the atmosphere some other guys he looked at you know potential earthquakes and magma displacement what would it be like if if if you had passive the audio sensors that that could also be detected he’s got a little network of things they’re all right something up we love reliable Manhattan technique you know that’s tried-and-true everybody loves Manhattan quick and dirty works all the time that’s really the ethos of us as makers the original makers amateur radio okay now we’re access PCB right so express PCV we love that and toppers really at the forefront I’m now scratching my head about something because perhaps low-and-slow drives us to a future of small batch chip foundries ok so what I mean by that right now in semiconductors in the this concept called system-on-a-chip or sock right the big four out there you got Intel samsung TSMC taiwan semiconductor and GlobalFoundries right you have a few other TI micron a whole bunch of others but i’m wondering whether the market potentially with just in time processing our house for potential small-batch fabrication since we are talking about going low and slow right so we you know from Georgia nanometer designed to now 10 and 10 less than 10 nanometer design is it possible to wrap it all up in very large scale but low power in small batch products you know with an ad little piece module their kind of an SDR based on fpgas or other pieces like that i don’t know i’m just asking the question I wonder and I wonder if tapper will be really a place where you’re seeing the perfect storm with kids coming up an amateur radio experimenting with IOT as well as the the public service interest in terms of disaster management ok this is kind of cool wisp RF harvesting right there’s ambient RF all over the place and I’m wondering if you can trickle charge you know essentially acquiescence a cell that triggers a water sensor and then triggers something a shelf higher in voltage based on a solar cell ok so I’m wondering so here at Barbara again TTFN to aprs you could have a little HD with a mesh set of sensors potentially all control through DTMF an aprs i’m just wondering potential lines of experimentation I’m going to quit right here low-power like we are staying awake on power using RF harvesting potentially triggering secondary cells in a peer-to-peer mesh architecture fed through ambien power right should we fabricate small-batch soft chips as a community low-speed continues of low rate JT modes whisper X that’s now kind of experimental mode and additional frequency-shift keying f1 d right that’s a category low-frequency HFF LF right through the earth even are mine disasters for example is there potential technologies companies are experimenting with 5 kilohertz and below it’s not really a radio wave anymore it’s more of a magnetic pulse right you know they’re experimenting with with phase shift and so forth so there’s kind of interesting things going there on the physics research side finally low to the ground impact zone out words right it’s not that the big internet is going to a disaster site it’s the opposite let’s start at the impact zone and go outward and look at that measure gregation so a lot of mesh network protocols could be potentially use aggregating and then going to higher bandwidth modalities so oh by the way I just inserted this I think is loose who asks about microwave so Virginia Tech is now starting this particular project which is a geosynchronous sound like they’re proposing it’s in incubation right now but Virginia Tech is doing it sits up there microwave right and you know I thought okay how are they gonna do not control it that well there’s this sort of at that level is gonna be all digital there’s a kind of a polling request schema that they’re going to figure out you know I don’t know how they do it but ok they’re smart guys so they’re going to figure it out but okay there you go the microwave things I I thought I clipped that and show it to their okay final site this is my map of the United States you coming to my office there’s a there’s the ARL maidenhead grid map that’s the one I really love and I have it the the FEMA regions but the first map you see is this map rocky this is my number of the United States ok the green is all over the place after the deep green okay you just can’t see it and why is that because everybody remembers this bottom line book so the bottom line is this right number this book 200 meters and downright nobody thought that radio could work below 200 meters and of course it was the government that made that assertion right and so then let’s get the hands everything behind 200 meters and below and so in effect this is what was taken from us right I’m sorry right it was taking we’ve lost spectrum ever since so here we go so my sort of call-to-action little bit is do we really want 802 14-5 and bluetooth low energy for not whatever to lead the way i don’t think so i think the opportunities are great like 200 meters below amateur radio will lead the way once again amateur spectrum is a national treasure you know you hear a Ken Burns say you know America’s national parks are America’s national treasure I think that’s closer number two and an amateur radio will always lead the original makers original innovators have always come from this space i’m proud to be a hammer proud to get my ticket back from uh now that i got extra now I can go make my norcal 40a until i exhaust myself of all the JT modes because he’s such a wonderful man and he made such a major contribution to science and and amateur radio so Joe Taylor is a wonderful guy and craig fugate who is who taught me everything about emergency management the United States Ohio much so thank you very much thanks

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