Made for Pex Piping Moen Shower Faucet!


hello my name’s Claude Taylor and
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you with all that said let’s get started with the video all right in this video
here we’re going to do is we’re going to prefab and prefab means making it up
ahead of time so that it’s all together and we can put it in in one shot and
everything’s together and what we’re doing here is we’re going to build a tub
and shower valve we’re gonna assemble one let’s start off by taking a few
measurements and these measurements are gonna be for the tub spout and this one
here if more than was likely 7 inch it’s gonna be for the tub spout and the other
one’s gonna be around 54 for the showerhead itself going up to the
showerhead now you don’t have to have a fancy cutter like this I do quite a bit
of cutting copper pipe and this is a lot easier on the risk so this is why I am
using this particular tool this is Milwaukee battery-operated tool cutter this is going to be the tub and shower
valve of choice and this is a Moen turbine shower valve and this particular
one is designed for Reuben or pecs pipes and fittings the only part that we’re
gonna have to use on here that we’re not going to use any PEX pipe is going be
the riser going up to the showerhead and the part going down to the tub spout
those two pieces will have to be soldered on and that’s to give the
shower valve some stability okay before we go to assemble the new parts on the
tub and shower round we’re gonna break it down first this is the best way to do
it before you start soldering pipe and the first thing we’re gonna do is we’re
gonna take this cover off and we’re gonna put this cover back on because
that cover makes it easy for the inner towel guy or drywaller to of install the
towel and make sure that the valve is sticking out properly and again that’s gonna go back on and
what we’re gonna do is remove all the components to this uh tub and shower
valve so that when we go to solder to pipe
we don’t melt any of the washers or the cartridge inside of it are you know do
any damage we don’t wanna take a chance like that so here we’ve removed the
cartridge and again this is a Moen posi temp humming shower valve and the pins
that just pulled out now those go to the stops and these stops are designed to
cut the water off at the valve rather than turn it off to the entire house so
if you ever need to replace the cartridge you can just turn the water
off right here once you remove the cover plate and they just pull right out and
you can see why I’m concerned about soldering the pipe that rubber washer
there we don’t want to disfigure or melt it in any kind of way well one thing to
keep in mind is that the if for any reason the hot water is not cut on or
the cold water either one one will not work without the other the hot and the
cold water has to be on at the same time so the dis Val what operate I have all
my fittings laid out and ready to go now we’re going to go on with soldering
part and first of all we’re going to clean the fittings as clean as we can
get them cleaning Mira’s fittings with a wire brush is a very important and these what they call drop eared 90s
or you can call them wing 90s and of course this is a copper half-inch cap
and the caps are gonna be put on tip rarely I’m only going to one cap but I
am doing two because I have another valve on the side that you’re not seeing
right now and the cleaning brush that I’m using you can flip it to one side
and you can also use the three-quarter inside for three-quarter inch pipe all
this is half-inch right now and you can also clean the pipe there’s a section
where you can clean the pipe with the same wire brush that I have here taking
measurement here that was seven inches and sometimes there’s just a random
piece that’s cut and when I talk about a random piece just what it says a random
piece that’s grabbed it looked like it’s gonna fit wherever I need it and I can
always cut it later now keep in mind here I know a lot of
you’re probably watching this video right now and you’re wondering well how
come he doesn’t have it set up on a stand or something like that to make
this a little easier well in actuality when you’re on job sites sometimes you
don’t have that luxury so you emphasize and you do what you can do at the time and here’s the flux – we’re gonna use and on the flux don’t really go do not
go light on the flux it’s not necessary to go too heavy but don’t go light on it
you want to make sure that these pipes and fittings are flux tough on the
inside very good so that the lead-free solder that you’re going to use is going
to fuse the two metals together and here’s a little trick I like to do
once I’ve cleaned and flux the fittings and as I like to kind of egg-shaped the
fitting itself and the pipe so that when I twist it it’s in place and doesn’t
fall out as I’m soldering the pipe you can see how I’m squeezing down on the
fitting and always wipe off the excess excess flux that’s hanging around it
makes for a nice clean solder connection other than that some green stuff buildup
on the outside which will deteriorate the pipe pretty quick now when I do when
you see me putting the pipe inside of the brass fitting itself I’m gonna
egg-shape the pipe not the brass part just only the pipe and this will allow
me enough to just squeeze it in there so you’ll see stay tight and snug and won’t
rattle or move all over the place when I do go to solder or move the valve around
as I’m soldering see that’s nice and tight and that’s gonna keep it stable
and again we’re gonna wipe the excess flux off of here and once again I don’t have anything
right now that I can’t of race this tub and shower valve on and assemble it to
solder it so again improvise improvise and prize okay we have we have one valve here that
is totally assembled now it will be ready to go ahead and solder up and we
have here is a small bottle of propane gas and of course this is my uh torch
setup that I’m going to use I do have a bigger tank that use
acetylene but I use usually use that on much larger jobs but a little small job
like this this is all I need and this is all you’re gonna need and this particular one you can it
strikes and it lights itself and you can just hold the red button down you can
see and it will continue to run without you having to hold your hand on the
trigger to keep playing on now if you’re interested in learning on
how to solder copper pipe I have plenty of videos out there and how to solder
copper pipe on YouTube so please go ahead and check those videos out
I even have them where I’m installing copper pipe enough in a house so I’m
doing quite a bit of soldering on that particular video and the sound has been cut off because I
had some people come by and they wanted to talk and talk and talk so I had it I
didn’t realize that I went back to edit and so I edit all the conversation out and if you notice when I’m soldering
this is give you an idea the flame is always mostly aimed at the fitting
itself and the reason for that is the solder is going to follow the hottest
point so what is the what it’s doing now by holding it on the fitting and sucking
the pipe the solder into the pipe and fitting okay here I go I’m going to make
up my little homemade brace here – bricen please so that I can go ahead and
solder that cap on there and again you can see that I’m holding
the heat on the copper fitting itself and by holding it on the copper fitting
you can see that it just suck the solder right up in to a place to where it need
to go yeah once all the solder joints are soldered together I’ll take another
rag and I’ll clean it up and make it look a lot nicer and neater now that we have it all soldered up and
cooled down now it’s time to start and put the valve back together and of
course we’re gonna put our stops back in here and it’s important that when you
put the stops back and the cartridge that you put the returned pins and
please don’t forget to retain a planted pins and here are the retainer pins and you notice when I put the
cartridge you see the H and the see the H on the hot see on the right side for
the cold and of course we put the retainer pin back in and now we’re going
to put our cover plate back on not actually the cover plate but the it’s a
template plate so that when they go to put the towel in on the wall that they
will leave an opening enough so that we can put our cover plate the trim work
actually over it again thanks for watching give me a thumbs up and become
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11 thoughts on “Made for Pex Piping Moen Shower Faucet!

  1. Out of all the tub and shower valve out here I find the moen tub and shower valve to be the most effective over all, with ease of installation, operations, and simple repair.

  2. Claude great video. glad you're continuing to bring us your talents. Improvising on the spot is probably one of the biggest skills one can have, I've used garbage can lid's, the entire can, bricks, the ground a near by wall, the floor sometimes it's all you've got for leverage or a work surface durable enough to do what it is you need to do. That Moen shower valve is a good thing, I'll switch to them if I need one in the future.
    Those 'Dog eared 90's although a small thing, I've found situations where they were not installed properly (just hanging) you just grab it and attach a stub. Ha! Anyway, Claude hope all is well in Houston , prayers for you and yours. The work there just keeps on coming.

  3. Nicely done. Now if I were you I'd carry a couple of cheap fold up saw horses and a short plank to fashion a bench with. Nothing worse than having to work off the ground like that, in my book. Thanks for the video.

  4. why did you solder a cap on the end of the shower spout and aren't those usually threaded for the spout?

  5. Yes they are treaded at the end, but sometimes the tub spouts are slip on, well now days most of them are slip on. The cap is intall to keep thing out and some one from cutting them self on the sharp copper edges as contruction is going on.

  6. Is there an option for the PEX expander fittings to not have to solder with a mixer?

  7. Thank you, very well explained and shown how to solder the joints.

  8. Great video but I have a question.
    Can I use pex for the riser on a 'shower only' valve ? I would like to use nothing but Uponor pex for my shower valve.

  9. Hey Claude, really good video. I'm learning a lot. Can the Moen valve use Apollo Pex from Home Depot? Or, does it have to be Uponor?

  10. Thanks for the video!
    Do the Moen valves have some way to secure them to a board or something for stability?
    Is there any other way to stabilize them without having to sweat copper? Like with CPVC and something to hold the CPVC in place?
    Or can PEX be run to the showerhead and tub spout (with a drop-ear ell for both so they can be secured)?
    I want to add a single handle shower/tub combo to an area that previously had just a shower with 2 handles. I also need to update an existing shower/tub combo from 3 handles to single handle. And I need to tear out a fugly avocado green one-piece showertub (complete with cracked tub floor) and replace it with a more ADA friendly shower with slidebar. Old one has 2 handles and I want to go to single. I want to install Moen Kingsley Moentrol for all three showers.

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