PBS NewsHour Weekend full episode February 9, 2020


>>Stewart: ON THIS EDITION FOR SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 9: PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES CANVASS NEW HAMPSHIRE IN THE FINAL PUSH AHEAD OF TUESDAY’S PRIMARY. AND IN OUR SIGNATURE SEGMENT: A 15-YEAR BATTLE HEATS UP OVER OREGON’S JORDAN COVE PIPELINE PROJECT. NEXT ON “PBS NEWSHOUR WEEKEND.”>>PBS NEWSHOUR WEEKEND IS MADEPOSSIBLE BY:BERNARD AND IRENE SCHWARTZ.SUE AND EDGAR WACHENHEIM III.THE CHERYL AND PHILIP MILSTEINFAMILY.ROSALIND P. WALTER.BARBARA HOPE ZUCKERBERG.CHARLES ROSENBLUM.WE TRY TO LIVE IN THE MOMENT,TO NOT MISS WHAT’S RIGHT INFRONT OF US.AT MUTUAL OF AMERICA, WEBELIEVE TAKING CARE OF TOMORROWCAN HELP YOU MAKE THE MOST OFTODAY.MUTUAL OF AMERICA FINANCIALGROUP, RETIREMENT SERVICES ANDINVESTMENTS.>>WHEN IT COMES TO WIRELESS, CONSUMER CELLULAR GIVES ITS CUSTOMERS THE CHOICE. OUR NO-CONTRACT PLANS GIVE YOU AS MUCH OR AS LITTLE TALK, TEXT AND DATA AS YOU WANT. AND OUR U.S.-BASED CUSTOMER SERVICE TEAM IS ON-HAND TO HELP. TO LEARN MORE, GO TO www.consumercellular.tv.ADDITIONAL SUPPORT HAS BEENPROVIDED BY:AND BY THE CORPORATION FORPUBLIC BROADCASTING, A PRIVATECORPORATION FUNDED BY THEAMERICAN PEOPLE.AND BY CONTRIBUTIONS TO YOURPBS STATION FROM VIEWERS LIKEYOU.THANK YOU.FROM THE TISCH WNET STUDIOS ATLINCOLN CENTER IN NEW YORK,ALISON STEWART.>>Stewart: GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTERS WILL GET THEIR CHANCE TO CHOOSE A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WHEN THE POLLS OPEN THERE SHORTLY AFTER MIDNIGHT ON TUESDAY. IN THE CROWDED DEMOCRATIC FIELD, ACROSS THE GRANITE STATE CANDIDATES SHOOK HANDS AT DINERS, HELD GET OUT THE VOTE RALLIES, AND TOOK QUESTIONS AT COMMUNITY FORUMS TODAY.>>WE’RE TAKING ON THE DEMOCRATIC ESTABLISHMENT.>>Stewart: AND THE CANDIDATES CONTINUED TO GO AFTER ONE ANOTHER. YESTERDAY FORMER VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN RESPONDED TO QUESTIONS ABOUT FORMER SOUTH BEND INDIANA MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG WITH THIS:>>THIS GUY’S NOT A BARACK OBAMA. BARACK OBAMA HAD BEEN A UNITED STATES SENATOR OF A REALLY LARGE STATE.>>Stewart: BUTTIGIEG RESPONDED ON THIS MORNING’S POLITICAL TALK SHOWS.>>WELL, HE’S RIGHT. I’M NOT. AND NEITHER IS HE. NEITHER IS ANY OF US RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. AND THIS ISN’T 2008. IT’S 2020. AND WE ARE IN A NEW MOMENT CALLING FOR A DIFFERENT KIND OF LEADERSHIP.>>I DO BELIEVE WE’RE A PARTY AT RISK IF WE SHOULD NOMINATE SOMEONE WHO’S NEVER HELD A HIGHER OFFICE THAN THE MAYOR OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA.>>Stewart: THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN ALSO RELEASED AN AD COMPARING THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT’S RECORD IN NATIONAL OFFICE TO WHAT IT CLAIMED WERE THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF FORMER MAYOR BUTTIGIEG IN SOUTH BEND, INDIANA.>>JOE BIDEN HELPED SAVE THE AUTO INDUSTRY, WHICH REVITALIZED THE ECONOMY OF THE MIDWEST. PETE BUTTIGIEG REVITALIZED THE SIDEWALKS OF DOWNTOWN SOUTH BEND BY LAYING OUT DECORATIVE BRICK.>>Stewart: BUTTIGIEG CALLED IT A “TYPICAL POLITICAL ATTACK.”>>COMMUNITIES, WHETHER THEY’RE MY SIZE OR RURAL COMMUNITIES OR EVEN NEIGHBORHOODS IN OUR BIGGEST CITIES, THAT FEEL COMPLETELY LEFT BEHIND ARE FRUSTRATED WITH BEING MADE INTO A PUNCHLINE BY WASHINGTON POLITICIANS.>>Stewart: SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS– WHO SHARED A WIN IN THE IOWA CAUCUSES WITH BUTTIGIEG– ALSO CRITICIZED BUTTIGIEG AGAIN FOR ACCEPTING CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS FROM BILLIONAIRES.>>LAST COUNT HE HAS ABOUT 40 BILLIONAIRES WHO ARE CONTRIBUTING TO HIS CAMPAIGN, THE HEADS OF– THE C.E.O.s OF THE LARGE PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRIES AND THE INSURANCE COMPANIES AND SO FORTH.>>Stewart: PRESIDENT TRUMP AND VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE WILL HOLD A RALLY IN MANCHESTER TOMORROW. THE PRESIDENT FACES CHALLENGERS, BUT IS EXPECTED TO WIN EASILY IN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY. FOR MORE ON THE CAMPAIGNS AND THE TUESDAY PRIMARY, NEW HAMPSHIRE PUBLIC RADIO POLITICAL REPORTER CASEY McDERMOTT JOINS US NOW FROM MANCHESTER. CASEY, I HAVE TO ASK, HOW HAVE THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PARTY LEADERS BEEN REACTING TO THE IOWA BREAKDOWN?>>ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY ARE DOING THIS TIME AROUND WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT THEY REALLY DO PRETTY ROUTINELY IS THEY ARE SENDING OUT STATE ELECTION INSPECTORS TO EVERY SINGLE POLLING PLACE THROUGHOUT THE DAY. BUT THIS TIME THEY ARE ACTUALLY HITTING EVERY SINGLE POLLING PLACE INCLUDING THE ONES THAT OPEN AT MIDNIGHT FOR THAT KIND OF FAMOUS NEW HAMPSHIRE MIDNIGHT VOTING TRADITION. SO THAT IS SOMETHING NEW. AND THEN ANOTHER THING THEY ARE DOING THIS YEAR WHICH IS RATHER NOVEL IS THAT THEY’VE SET THE EXPECTATION THAT IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN, IF SOMETHING WERE TO GO WRONG, THEY HAVE COMMITTED TO BEING VERY TRANSPARENT THROUGHOUT THE DAY. TO THE POINT WHERE THEY HAVE SET ASIDE SPACE AT THE NEW HAMPSHIRE STATE HOUSE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I AM NOT AWARE OF THEM DOING EVER BEFORE, FOR THE MEDIA AND ALSO REPRESENTATIVES FROM ALL OF THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGNS SO THAT THROUGHOUT THE DAY IF SOMETHING WERE TO REQUIRE SOME KIND OF SUBSTANTIAL UPDATE FROM STATE LEADERS, THAT THERE WOULD BE A PLACE FOR THAT INFORMATION TO BE SHARED AS IT IS HAPPENING, AS IT IS AVAILABLE. SO THAT REALLY MISINFORMATION DOESN’T KIND OF FESTER IN THE MEANTIME.>>Stewart: SO I’M WONDERING ABOUT NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTERS. ARE PEOPLE LOCKED IN OR WILL THE RESULTS FROM IOWA, COULD THEY HAVE AN EFFECT ON PEOPLE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE ON HOW THEY VOTE?>>PEOPLE ARE REALLY STILL MAKING UP THEIR MINDS FOR THE MOST PART. AND THAT IS BORN OUT IN A LOT OF THE POLLING THAT WE HAVE SEEN. A LARGE CHUNK OF THE ELECTORATE WAITS TO MAKE UP THEIR MIND AND REALLY TAKES THEIR TIME UNTIL REALLY PRIMARY DAY TO MAKE UP THEIR FINAL DECISION. SO, I KNOW WHEN I WAS TALKING TO SOME PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF AN EVENT FOR MAYOR BUTTIGIEG EARLIER THIS WEEKEND, THEY WERE SAYING THAT THEY STILL WEREN’T ENTIRELY SURE IF THEY WERE GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM. NOW, OF COURSE THERE WERE PEOPLE THERE WHO ALSO SAID THAT THEY WERE FANS OF HIS. BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE REALLY STILL SCOPING OUT THEIR OPTIONS.>>Stewart: ONE CANDIDATE WE HAVEN’T SEEN ON THE DEBATE STAGE BUT WHO I UNDERSTAND IN NEW HAMPSHIRE IS REALLY TRYING TO MAKE A PLAY FOR NEW HAMPSHIRE IS REPRESENTATIVE TULSI GABBARD. TELL US HOW.>>A FEW MONTHS AGO, RIGHT BEFORE THE DEADLINE FOR PEOPLE TO UPDATE THEIR PARTY REGISTRATION, SHE SENT OUT A CAMPAIGN EMAIL ENCOURAGING PEOPLE IF THEY KNEW REPUBLICANS IN THEIR LIVES WHO WERE PERHAPS INTERESTED IN SUPPORTING HER OR SUPPORTING SOMEONE DIFFERENT, ENCOURAGING THEM TO UPDATE THEIR PARTY REGISTRATION TO UNDECLARED OR INDEPENDENT, SO THAT THEY COULD VOTE FOR HER IN THE PRIMARY. AND WHAT I FOUND WAS THAT PEOPLE WERE REALLY COMING IN FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT POLITICAL IDEOLOGIES TO KIND OF FIND OUT WHAT SHE WAS ABOUT AND TO PERHAPS LINE UP BEHIND HER TO SUPPORT HER. AND I THINK WE ARE SEEING AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT OF TRACTION BEHIND HER FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE POLITICAL ESTABLISHMENT OF EITHER PARTY.>>Stewart: I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT ANDREW YANG SEEMS TO BE INTERESTING TO PEOPLE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. WHY DO NEW HAMPSHIREITES LIKE ANDREW YANG?>>YOU KNOW, SIMILARLY HE HAS, KIND OF, APPEALED TO PEOPLE WHO ARE PERHAPS NOT PART OF THE PARTY ESTABLISHMENT. I THINK HE’S ALSO BUILT UP A LOT OF GOODWILL IN THE STATE. I KNOW I HAVE SEEN PARTY LEADERS SAY THAT THEY HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR HIM FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT HE HAS PUT IN HERE. PEOPLE ARE DEFINITELY GIVING EVEN THOSE CANDIDATES WHO ARE NOT AT, KIND OF, THE TOP OF THE POLLS A CLOSE LOOK.>>Stewart: THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF NEW HAMPSHIRE AND IT HAVING SUCH A BIG INFLUENCE ON THE ELECTION SEASON GIVEN ITS DEMOGRAPHICS. 93% WHITE, ALMOST 4% LATINX, 3% ASIAN, 1.7% AFRICAN-AMERICAN. HOW DO LOCAL POLITICAL LEADERS, HOW ARE THEY DEFENDING THEIR FIRST IN THE NATION STATUS? I HAVE SEEN THE HASHTAG F.I.T.N. ALL OVER TWITTER.>>F.I.T.N., FOR THE UNINITIATED, MEANS “FIRST IN THE NATION” AND IT IS KIND OF A SHORT HAND FOR THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY UP HERE. THERE HAS BEEN QUITE A CONCERTED EFFORT, PARTICULARLY AMONG THE POLITICAL ESTABLISHMENT, TO KEEP NEW HAMPSHIRE FIRST IN THE NATION. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE FOUND IN OUR REPORTING IS THAT THE KIND OF IDEA OF WHAT A NEW HAMPSHIRE CAMPAIGN OR WHAT A NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY REALLY LOOKS LIKE IS CHANGING. WE’RE SEEING A LOT OF THOSE TRADITIONAL HOUSE PARTIES AND TRADITIONAL KIND OF SMALL, INTIMATE TOWNHALLS GIVE WAY TO LARGER RALLIES, A MORE, KIND OF, NATIONAL MEDIA-DRIVEN CAMPAIGN. JUST THIS WEEK WE HAD CNN HOLDING TOWNHALLS WHERE IN THE PAST, THOSE TOWNHALLS MAY HAVE BEEN HAPPENING IN LOCAL COMMUNITY CENTERS. SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND IS THAT WHILE PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY ADAMANT ABOUT NEW HAMPSHIRE’S PLACE IN THE PRIMARY WILL SAY THAT WE ARE A PLACE WHERE GRASSROOTS CAMPAIGNING IS IMPORTANT AND THEY WILL USE THAT AS KIND OF A COUNTER-ARGUMENT TO PEOPLE WHO RAISE QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR DEMOGRAPHIC MAKEUP. THAT GRASSROOTS CAMPAIGNING IS NOT ALWAYS WHAT WE STILL SEE IN THE MODERN NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY CAMPAIGNS OF TODAY.>>Stewart: CASEY McDERMOTT, FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE PUBLIC RADIO, THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US.>>THANKS SO MUCH.>>Stewart: THE U.S. MILITARY SAID TODAY THAT TWO AMERICAN SOLDIERS WERE KILLED AND SIX OTHERS WOUNDED IN AFGHANISTAN LATE YESTERDAY. THE PENTAGON IDENTIFIED THEM AS SERGEANT FIRST CLASS JAVIER GUTIERREZ OF SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS, AND SERGEANT FIRST CLASS ANTONIO RODRIGUEZ, OF LAS CRUCES, NEW MEXICO. BOTH WERE 28-YEARS-OLD. THE ATTACK HAPPENED IN THE COUNTRY’S EASTERN NANGARHAR PROVINCE. U.S. OFFICIALS SAID AN AFGHAN MAN DRESSED IN AN AFGHAN ARMY UNIFORM OPENED FIRE ON THE SOLDIERS. THE GUNMAN AND ONE AFGHAN SOLDIER WERE ALSO KILLED. AN AFGHAN DEFENSE MINISTRY OFFICIAL SAID THE ATTACKER WAS NOT A TALIBAN INFILTRATOR. SIX U.S. SERVICE MEMBERS HAVE DIED IN AFGHANISTAN THIS YEAR. THIS MORNING, SECURITY FORCES IN THAILAND KILLED THE GUNMAN WHO YESTERDAY CARRIED OUT THAT COUNTRY’S WORST MASS SHOOTING. THE GUNMAN KILLED AT LEAST 26 PEOPLE AND INJURED DOZENS MORE DURING A 16-HOUR SHOOTING RAMPAGE THAT BEGAN AT A MILITARY BASE AND CONTINUED ON STREETS AND INTO A SHOPPING MALL. OFFICIALS SAID THE MAN WAS KILLED DURING A SHOOTOUT WITH POLICE AND MILITARY PERSONNEL IN THE BASEMENT OF THE MALL WHERE HE WAS HOLED UP OVERNIGHT. THE 32-YEAR-OLD GUNMAN– A SERGEANT MAJOR IN THE MILITARY– REPORTEDLY BEGAN HIS ATTACK IN A DISPUTE OVER A LAND DEAL. HE POSTED MESSAGES AND VIDEOS TO FACEBOOK DURING THE SHOOTINGS BEFORE HIS ACCOUNT WAS REMOVED. THE DEATH TOLL IN CHINA FROM THE CORONAVIRUS IS NOW HIGHER THAN FATALITIES DURING THE SARS EPIDEMIC IN 2002 AND 2003. CHINESE HEALTH OFFICIALS REPORTED 89 NEW DEATHS TODAY. 811 PEOPLE HAVE DIED FROM THE NEW CORONAVIRUS IN CHINA SINCE THE OUTBREAK BEGAN IN DECEMBER. ONE OTHER PERSON DIED IN THE PHILIPPINES. IN JAPAN, SIX NEW CASES WERE DETECTED ON BOARD A CRUISE SHIP WHERE 3,700 PEOPLE REMAIN IN QUARANTINE. PASSENGERS AND CREW ABOARD A CRUISE SHIP IN HONG KONG WERE ALLOWED TO DISEMBARK AFTER AUTHORITIES SAID THE CREW TESTED NEGATIVE FOR THE VIRUS. SINCE THE EPIDEMIC BEGAN, MORE THAN 37,000 CONFIRMED CASES OF THE CORONAVIRUS HAVE BEEN REPORTED IN CHINA AND 24 OTHER COUNTRIES. YOU CAN WATCH OUR SPECIAL COVERAGE OF TUESDAY’S NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY ON OUR BROADCAST, OR BY VISITING ONLINE, AT pbs.org/newshour.>>Stewart: SINCE 2004, THERE HAS BEEN A PROTRACTED BATTLE UNDERWAY IN OREGON. IT’S A FIGHT OVER A LIQUID NATURAL GAS EXPORT TERMINAL, AND THE PIPELINE THAT WOULD DELIVER THE GAS. LANDOWNERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE WARY OF WHAT THEY SAY IS A RISKY PROPOSITION. BUT, AS PBS NEWSHOUR WEEKEND’S CHRISTOPHER BOOKER REPORTS, IT’S A 15-YEAR CONFLICT THAT IS FINALLY INCHING CLOSER TO A CONCLUSION.>>THIS TREE RIGHT HERE IS A BEAUTIFUL OLD OAK TREE. AND THAT’S WHERE THE CATTLE SHADES.>>Reporter: SANDY AND RUSS LYON ARE THE KIND OF LANDOWNERS THAT KNOW EVERY DETAIL OF THEIR PROPERTY. SINCE 1992, THE CALIFORNIA TRANSPLANTS HAVE SPENT THEIR DAYS STEWARDING THESE 306 ACRES OF RANCH LAND IN SOUTHWEST OREGON. THEY’VE RAISED THEIR SON HERE, PLUS A SMALL NUMBER OF LIVESTOCK. AND THEY’VE WORKED TO RESTORE THE SALMON HABITAT IN THE CREEK THAT CUTS THROUGH THEIR LAND.>>AND THE SPAWNING SALMON COMING UP CAN HIDE UNDER THOSE LOGS.>>Reporter: THE LYONS SAY THEY MOVED TO RURAL OREGON BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO LIVE IN NATURE, AWAY FROM THINGS. BUT IN 2005, DESPITE THEIR BEST EFFORTS, THEY LEARNED THAT A BIT OF THE OUTSIDE WORLD WAS INDEED COMING IN, OR, IN THEIR CASE, COMING UNDER THEIR LAND.>>WE GOT A LETTER IN THE MAIL. AND WITH THE LETTER, THERE WAS A MAP SHOWING WHERE IT WOULD GO.>>Reporter: THE LETTER CONCERNED WHAT IS NOW CALLED THE JORDAN COVE ENERGY PROJECT. IT’S A PROPOSED 229-MILE NATURAL GAS PIPELINE THAT WOULD SERVE AS A CONNECTION BETWEEN EXISTING PIPELINES IN THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS AND A LIQUID NATURAL GAS EXPORT TERMINAL THAT WOULD BE BUILT ON THE OREGON COAST. THE NEW PIPELINE WOULD RUN RIGHT THROUGH THE LYON PROPERTY.>>SO, IT WOULD BE COMING OVER THAT RIDGE UP THERE WHERE YOU SEE THE TALLEST TREES, DOWN THAT MOUNTAIN AND IT WILL COME IN OUR PROPERTY RIGHT ABOUT THERE AND CUT DOWN AND GO THROUGH THE CREEK.>>Reporter: BUILDING A PIPELINE WOULD MEAN CUTTING A PATH 95 FEET WIDE, CLEARING EVERYTHING IN ITS WAY, INCLUDING THE TREES. AND EQUIPMENT WOULD BE STAGED ON THEIR PASTURE FOR UP TO FIVE YEARS. THE LYONS HAVE RESISTED EACH OFFER TO PUT THE PIPELINE UNDER THEIR LAND: FROM THE FIRST COMPANY IN 2005 WHO OFFERED $4,000, TO THE MOST RECENT OFFER OF NEARLY $100,000 FROM THE CANADIAN ENERGY FIRM, PEMBINA.>>WE WON’T BE BOUGHT OUT BECAUSE WE LOVE THIS LAND. WE LOVE THE FISH.>>AND WE WOULDN’T WANT TO LIVE HERE WITH THE PIPELINE.>>Reporter: THE LYONS ARE ONE OF MORE THAN 80 PRIVATE LANDOWNERS WHO HAVE SAID NO TO THE PIPELINE. BUT SOME HAVE SAID YES. PEMBINA SAYS IT’S ALREADY SECURED MORE THAN 80% OF THE ROUTE. BUT IT’S NOT JUST ABOUT CONVINCING LANDOWNERS. THIS PROJECT NEEDS APPROVAL FROM THE FEDERAL ENERGY REGULATORY COMMISSION AND THE STATE OF OREGON TO GO FORWARD. IT’S BEEN A REGULATORY ODYSSEY THAT INCLUDED A FEDERAL REJECTION IN 2016, AND ONGOING WRANGLING WITH SEVERAL STATE AGENCIES. NEVERTHELESS, THE JORDAN COVE PROJECT PERSISTS. THE SITE OF THE PROPOSED EXPORT TERMINAL IS 65 MILES TO THE NORTHWEST IN COASTAL COOS COUNTY. THE PROJECT’S DEVELOPER, PEMBINA, DECLINED PBS NEWSHOUR WEEKEND’S REQUEST FOR AN INTERVIEW. BUT SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS SEE THIS PROJECT AS AN INVESTMENT THAT WILL TRANSFORM THIS RURAL COMMUNITY. WHY DID YOU BECOME INVOLVED WITH THE JORDAN COVE PROJECT?>>ONE WORD: JOBS. JOBS FOR, FOR OUR WORKERS AND ALSO JOBS FOR THE COMMUNITY.>>Reporter: ROBERT WESTERMAN IS THE BUSINESS MANAGER OF I.B.E.W. LOCAL 932, A UNION REPRESENTING ELECTRICIANS ON OREGON’S COAST. HE’S BEEN AN OUTSPOKEN SUPPORTER OF THE PROJECT SINCE ITS FIRST ITERATION MORE THAN A DECADE AGO.>>IT’S A GAME CHANGER FOR US. IT IS GOING TO COMPLETELY CHANGE THE LANDSCAPE HERE FOR THE ECONOMY. WE DON’T SEE PROJECTS LIKE THIS. THIS IS A $10-BILLION INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT THAT’S COME INTO SOUTHERN OREGON. IT WILL BE THE LARGEST OF ITS KIND EVER.>>Reporter: PEMBINA ESTIMATES THAT AT ITS PEAK, JORDAN COVE WILL EMPLOY AS MANY AS 2,000 UNION CONSTRUCTION WORKERS DURING THE FIVE YEARS IT TAKES TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT. AND IT WILL THEN PERMANENTLY EMPLOY ABOUT 200 PEOPLE. THE COMPANY HAS ALSO GOTTEN A TAX BREAK FROM COOS COUNTY, BUT OVERALL, THE COUNTY’S ASSESSOR ESTIMATES THE COMPLETED PROJECT WOULD STILL NEARLY DOUBLE THE AREA’S ANNUAL TAX BASE. SUPPORTERS OF THE PROJECT SAY IT’S PARTICULARLY NEEDED IN A REGION THAT HAS SEEN A DRAMATIC DECLINE IN ONE OF ITS MAJOR INDUSTRIES: TIMBER. MORE THAN HALF OF OREGON’S SAW MILLS HAVE CLOSED SINCE THE LATE 80’s.>>WE CERTAINLY REALIZE THAT WE’RE NEVER GOING TO RECAPTURE ALL OF THE TIMBER JOBS THAT WE LOST OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS. THIS WOULD BE ONE SMALL STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.>>Reporter: TODD GOERGEN IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE LOCAL CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND THE CO-CHAIR OF BOOST SOUTHERN OREGON. IT’S A NONPROFIT CREATED TO ADVOCATE FOR THE PROJECT, AND IT’S RECEIVED FINANCIAL SUPPORT FROM PEMBINA. GOERGEN ALSO OWNS AN R.V. CAMPGROUND JUST DOWN THE ROAD FROM WHERE THE PROPOSED LIQUID NATURAL GAS TERMINAL WOULD BE BUILT. SO YOUR LAND GOES 100 ACRES BACK?>>WE HAVE 100 ACRES. HERE FROM THE TRANSPACIFIC OUR PROPERTY RUNS A FULL MILE NORTH.>>Reporter: GOERGEN’S FAMILY PURCHASED THIS PLOT OF LAND, WHICH SITS NEXT TO THE OREGON DUNES NATIONAL RECREATION AREA, IN 1992. YOU’RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT HAVING A NATURAL GAS TERMINAL RIGHT THERE?>>WELL, WE WEREN’T WORRIED ABOUT IT WHEN THERE WAS A BIG PULP PLANT RIGHT THERE EITHER.>>Reporter: HE SAYS INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF LIFE IN THIS REGION.>>WE HAVE A WORKING WATERFRONT IN A COMMUNITY THAT HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN VERY OPEN TO MAKING SURE THOSE USES ARE COMPATIBLE. WE’RE GOOD NEIGHBORS>>Reporter: THE SITE OF THE PROPOSED TERMINAL IS CURRENTLY VACANT.>>THIS IS WHERE THE SLIP AND THE TERMINAL WILL BE.>>Reporter: AND THEN JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE IS THE BAY, WHICH THEN BASICALLY THE BOATS CAN TAKE THE GAS.>>GO DIRECTLY WEST, YEP. OUT TO THE OPEN OCEAN AND ACROSS TO ASIA.>>Reporter: NEXT STOP, JAPAN.>>NEXT STOP, JAPAN.>>Reporter: THIS WASN’T ALWAYS THE CASE. THE PROJECT WAS INITIALLY DESIGNED TO IMPORT NATURAL GAS, BUT AFTER THE U.S. FRACKING BOOM, IT WAS RECONCEIVED AS AN EXPORT FACILITY TO SUPPLY ASIAN MARKETS. BUT THROUGH EACH ITERATION, THERE HAS BEEN OPPOSITION ARGUING THE POTENTIAL ECONOMIC BENEFITS HAVE NEVER JUSTIFIED THE ENVIRONMENTAL RISKS.>>AND THEY ACTUALLY DRILL UNDERNEATH THE RIVER.>>Reporter: ALLIE ROSENBLUTH IS AN ORGANIZER WITH ROGUE CLIMATE, A NONPROFIT ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP IN SOUTHERN OREGON FIGHTING THE JORDAN COVE PROJECT.>>THE JORDAN COVE L.N.G. TERMINAL IS IN A VERY POPULATED PART OF OUR COAST. THERE WOULD BE OVER 10,000 PEOPLE IN A HAZARDOUS BURN ZONE IF ANYTHING WAS TO GO WRONG. AND WE KNOW THAT WE’RE LONG OVERDUE FOR A EARTHQUAKE AND TSUNAMI ON THE OREGON COAST.>>Reporter: THE PROPOSED EXPORT TERMINAL SITS NEXT TO WHAT’S CALLED THE CASCADIA SUBDUCTION ZONE, AN AREA THAT SCIENTISTS SAY IS AT RISK OF A MAJOR EARTHQUAKE IN THE NEXT 50 YEARS. BUT IT’S NOT JUST THE LOCATION OF THE TERMINAL THAT CONCERNS ROSENBLUTH– SHE OBJECTS TO THE ENTIRE PROJECT. COOS BAY WILL NEED TO BE DREDGED TO MAKE ROOM FOR THE LARGE TRANSPORT SHIPS, POSSIBLY DISRUPTING FISHERIES. THE PIPELINE WOULD TRAVEL UNDER HUNDREDS OF WATERWAYS AND ROSENBLUTH WORRIES CHEMICALS USED DURING DRILLING MIGHT LEAK INTO RIVERS, AND SHE POINTS TO A 2014 INCIDENT IN NEIGHBORING WASHINGTON WHERE A NATURAL GAS TERMINAL EXPLODED, INJURING FIVE WORKERS AND FORCING HUNDREDS TO EVACUATE. BUT THE OPPOSITION ISN’T FOCUSED ENTIRELY ON THE ENVIRONMENT.>>THIS IS ANOTHER TRAUMA. WE’RE NOT AS IMPORTANT AS A CANADIAN FOSSIL FUEL COMPANY OR OTHERS THAT ARE PARTNERS WITH THEM.>>Reporter: DON GENTRY IS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE KLAMATH TRIBES. HE’S OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT FOR ALL THE SAME ENVIRONMENTAL REASONS AS ROSENBLUTH. BUT THE PIPELINE WOULD ALSO TRAVEL THROUGH THE TRIBES’ ANCESTRAL LANDS, WHICH INCLUDE THE KLAMATH RIVER.>>WE’VE BEEN HERE FOR OVER 14,000 YEARS. SO, AND THAT’S WHY THIS IS A PROBLEM. YOU KNOW, OUR PEOPLE LIVED ALONG THESE RIVERS AND LAKES. THE RISK OF DISTURBING SENSITIVE CULTURAL SITES AND HUMAN REMAINS IS SIGNIFICANT.>>Reporter: BUT PERHAPS MORE THAN ANY OTHER ISSUE, THE FACT THAT JORDAN COVE IS A FOSSIL FUEL PROJECT DRIVES OPPONENTS LIKE ROSENBLUTH. SHE SAYS THIS IS EXACTLY THE WRONG TYPE OF INVESTMENT TO BE MAKING AS THE WORLD TRIES TO ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE.>>IF WE LOOK AT THE METHANE LEAKAGE THAT HAPPENS ACROSS A PIPELINE ROUTE, IF WE LOOK AT HOW MUCH METHANE IS EMITTED WHEN THAT GAS IS BURNED, THIS PROJECT IS, AND ALL FRACKED GAS PROJECTS ARE NOT GOOD FOR THE CLIMATE. WHICH IS WHY WE NEED LOCAL OFFICIALS TO BE PUSHING FOR JOBS IN CLEAN ENERGY AND NOT FRACKED GAS.>>Reporter: IS IT WORTH IT TO FIGHT THIS LONG FOR A FUEL THAT WILL MOST LIKELY NOT BE USED TO SUCH A DEGREE IN THE FUTURE?>>RENEWABLE ENERGY, I BELIEVE, IS WHAT’S GOING TO SAVE US IN THE FUTURE. AND WE ARE, THE I.B.E.W. IS INSTALLING SOLAR PANELS ACROSS THIS COUNTRY AS WE SPEAK. WE’RE BUILDING WINDMILLS. BUT IT’S A DROP IN THE BUCKET COMPARED TO JUST OUR GROWTH OF THE NEED FOR POWER. IT’S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN JUST SNAP OUR FINGERS AND MAKE HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.>>Reporter: WESTERMAN ALSO POINTS OUT THAT THE COMPANY SAYS THE EXPORT TERMINAL WILL BE BUILT TO RESIST A 9.0 MAGNITUDE EARTHQUAKE AND RAISED MORE THAN 40 FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL TO WITHSTAND A TSUNAMI.>>THERE’S BEEN A LOT OF FEARMONGERING ABOUT THE PROJECT, WHETHER IT BE ABOUT THE LOSS OF HABITAT OR THAT WE HAVE, WILL NOW HAVE A NUCLEAR BOMB WAITING TO EXPLODE. THOSE ARE FAIRLY FALSE ARGUMENTS. IT’S NOT THAT. IT IS AN INDUSTRIAL FACILITY. WE ARE MORE THAN CAPABLE OF BUILDING IT SAFELY AND OPERATING IT SAFELY.>>Reporter: BUT EVEN ADVOCATES LIKE WESTERMAN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BALANCING THE INTERESTS OF PROPERTY OWNERS ISN’T EASY, ESPECIALLY IF LAND ENDS UP BEING TAKEN THROUGH EMINENT DOMAIN. WHAT’S YOUR CONVERSATION LIKE WITH LANDOWNERS WHO MAY OWN LAND, THAT THE PIPE MAY RUN THROUGH?>>Reporter: THAT’S A DIFFICULT CONVERSATION. I DON’T THINK ANYBODY IS OUT THERE ADVOCATING FOR EMINENT DOMAIN AND THE CLOSURE OF TAKING PEOPLE’S PROPERTY AWAY FROM THEM. TO THAT ONE HOMEOWNER, THAT ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT WANT IT, THAT MAY END UP HAVING IT ANYWAY, THAT IS, THAT’S A SHAME.>>Reporter: RUSS AND SANDY LYON THINK AN EMINENT DOMAIN FIGHT IS WHERE THIS IS HEADING.>>ONE THING IS HOW CAN IT HAPPEN? WHY DO YOU HAVE NO SAY IN IT? THAT YOU’LL ACTUALLY DO EMINENT DOMAIN FOR A FOREIGN COMPANY TO PUT SOMETHING JUST FOR THEIR PROFIT ACROSS LAND AND DO SO MUCH DESTRUCTION ALONG THE WAY.>>Reporter: HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THE PROPONENTS OF THE PROJECT WHO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT EMINENT DOMAIN QUESTIONS ARE CHALLENGING, THEY STILL BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A GREATER ECONOMIC BENEFIT?>>I THINK THEY’VE BEEN SOLD A BILL OF GOODS. THE PEOPLE HERE ARE TOLD THAT IT’LL BE LOCAL JOBS AND WE DOUBT THAT THAT’S TRUE. BUT EVEN IF IT WERE TRUE, IT WOULD BE A TEMPORARY SHORT TERM JOBS, AND AT WHAT RISK?>>Reporter: WHILE THE LYONS HAVE FOUGHT THE PIPELINE FROM THE BEGINNING, THEY HAVE RECENTLY INTENSIFIED THEIR RESISTANCE.>>IF YOU CHOOSE TO REMAIN IN THIS BUILDING YOU WILL BE TRESPASSING.>>Reporter: LAST NOVEMBER, SANDY LYON WAS AMONG 21 PEOPLE ARRESTED AFTER A SIT-IN AT OREGON GOVERNOR KATE BROWN’S OFFICE. THE GOVERNOR HAS PLEDGED TO REMAIN NEUTRAL WHILE THE REGULATORY PROCESS PLAYS OUT.>>I AM ANGRY. I PUT IT DOWN, IF I LET IT OUT, I’LL START TO CRY BECAUSE I’M SO PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS PLACE AND HAVING IT FOR OUR SON AND GRANDCHILDREN. YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN HANGING OVER US SO LONG, AND WE FIGHT IT EVERY DAY, AND IT GETS REALLY OLD AND IT’S STRESSFUL. AND YOU FEEL YOU CAN’T DO ANYTHING. THERE’S NOTHING WE CAN DO. SO YOU FEEL HELPLESS.>>Reporter: ON THURSDAY, FEDERAL REGULATORS WILL ANNOUNCE WHETHER THE JORDAN COVE PROJECT MEETS FEDERAL GUIDELINES. BUT EVEN AFTER THAT, THE PROJECT’S DEVELOPER WILL STILL NEED TO GET SEVERAL STATE PERMITS. AND IF THAT HAPPENS, OPPONENTS SAY THEY WILL CONTINUE THEIR FIGHT, IN COURT.>>THIS IS PBS NEWSHOUR WEEKEND,SUNDAY.>>Stewart: PBS NEWSHOUR STUDENT REPORTING LABS EXPLORE STEREOTYPES AS PART OF THEIR “NO LABELS ATTACHED” SERIES. TODAY, WE TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT YOUNG AMERICANS ARE SAYING ABOUT RACE, CULTURE AND THE MISCONCEPTIONS THEY FACE.>>WHEN I HEAR THE WORD “STEREOTYPE,” I FEEL IT’S A WORD THAT, LIKE, HAS– DOESN’T HAVE A GOOD AURA AROUND IT. IT MAKES ME FEEL, LIKE, UPSET WHEN I HEAR IT. I’M NOT GOING TO JUDGE YOU ON WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE OR LIKE, I’M GOING TO JUDGE YOU ON, LIKE, WHEN I MEET YOU. LIKE HOW YOU APPROACH ME.>>BEING AN INDIAN IN A MOSTLY AMERICAN SCHOOL, I’VE FACED A COUPLE OF CHALLENGES. MANY PEOPLE ASSUME THINGS ABOUT ME LIKE I’M SMART OR I WANT TO BE A DOCTOR. BUT I DON’T THINK MY SKIN COLOR IS WHAT DEFINES ME. I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT YOU GET TO KNOW A PERSON UNDER THEIR SKIN.>>A LOT OF PEOPLE ASSUMED THAT BECAUSE I’M AFRICAN-AMERICAN, I’M NOT SMART. PEOPLE WILL ASSUME THAT I DON’T GET A’S ON TESTS, I DON’T DO MY HOMEWORK, I DON’T TAKE HARD CLASSES, WHEN IN REALITY I’M PUSHING, PUSHING TO MY LIMITS.>>WHEN I FIRST MEET SOMEONE, I JUST TALK ABOUT, LIKE, WHERE THEY’RE FROM AND STUFF INSTEAD OF, LIKE, ASSUMING WHERE THEY’RE FROM. BECAUSE IT’S USUALLY BETTER TO GET TO KNOW SOMEONE’S BACKGROUND INFORMATION THAN JUST ASSUMING IT.>>I DON’T LIKE PUTTING LABELS ON PEOPLE BECAUSE I, I GET LABELS. I DON’T WANT TO PUT THAT ON SOMEONE ELSE, EITHER. AND THEY THINK, “OH, SHE’S HISPANIC, YEAH, SHE HAS NO FUTURE, RIGHT? SHE’S NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING.” AND I GET PUT INTO THAT GROUP. AND I’M NOT LIKE THAT AT ALL. I CARE ABOUT MY STUDIES. I WANT MY EDUCATION AND I WANT A FUTURE.>>I BREAK THE STEREOTYPES THAT I’VE ENCOUNTERED BY LAUGHING AT THEM, AND WALKING OFF. A STEREOTYPE DOES NOT MAKE YOU. YOU MAKE YOU.>>YOU SHOULD ACCEPT WHO YOU ARE AND LOVE WHO YOU ARE, BECAUSE WE’RE ALL HUMAN. WE’RE ALL BEAUTIFUL. WE ALL DESERVE TO HAVE A VOICE. YOUR COLOR OR YOUR RACE SHOULDN’T IDENTIFY YOUR PERSONALITY.>>Stewart: NEWSHOUR WILL BROADCAST FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE TOMORROW AND ON TUESDAY WITH SPECIAL REPORTS, ANALYSIS, AND RESULTS AS THEY COME IN THROUGHOUT THE EVENING. TUNE IN OR CHECK IN ONLINE AT pbs.org/newshour FOR NEWS ABOUT TUESDAY’S FIRST 2020 PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY VOTE. THAT’S ALL FOR THIS EDITION OF “PBS NEWSHOUR WEEKEND.” I’M ALISON STEWART. THANKS FOR WATCHING. AND HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.>>PBS NEWSHOUR WEEKEND IS MADEPOSSIBLE BY:BERNARD AND IRENE SCHWARTZ.SUE AND EDGAR WACHENHEIM III.THE CHERYL AND PHILIP MILSTEINFAMILY.ROSALIND P. 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