Ring Floodlight camera vs eufy Floodlight – wireless and no subscription fees FTW

I don’t want to give away the entire review
for the eufy Floodlight Camera, but a lot of this is going to sound pretty familiar
if you watched my take on the eufyCam and Eufy Doorbell videos. With so many great options
out there for home security cameras and doorbells, it’s still surprisingly difficult to find
wireless options with high-quality hardware, no subscription fees, and privacy-centric
data storage options. And it’s that last one that’s one of my main criteria for this
kind of stuff. With all of the data breaches and questionable cloud storage options, I
want smart home gear that is locally controlled as much as possible, and stores the data with
services I trust … or better yet … in my home and in my control. It’s why I’ve
slowly been moving away from things like Amazon Alexa and towards Google, Apple, and better
yet, Hubitat for true local control. Today, I’m taking a looking at the [eufy Floodlight
Camera] to see how it holds up to those requirements. I’m Matt Ferrell … welcome to Undecided. So I know it looks like I’m turning into
a eufy fanboy, and maybe I am a bit, but they’ve really been putting out some nice products
that tick the no subscription fee, locally hosted and secure checkboxes. I’ve been
beating this drum for a while across most of my smart home videos, but strong privacy
controls in these products isn’t just a nice-to-have feature, it needs to be a required
feature. But often times we put some of that on the back burner when we find products with
a good price, convenient installation, or features. So when eufy asked if I’d like
to check out their new Floodlight Camera, I immediately said yes. And to be clear, they
did send me this camera, but I was under no obligation to say anything specific or even
make a video about it. My opinions, as always, are my own. When it comes to security cameras, you can
hardwire cameras in and record video to a local DVR somewhere in your house. And those
systems work extremely well, but require a lot more setup and investment in time and
energy. In my case, hardwiring cameras isn’t something I’m interested in or able to do
easily in my home, but I still want the best of both worlds: wireless video streaming with
secure local storage. Just those two requirements dramatically reduce the field of options. For the past year I’ve had a Ring Floodlight
Camera above my garage, and it’s worked really well. The video quality is top-notch,
the motion detection controls and notifications have been good, and the lights are bright
and provide good coverage. But at the risk of beating a dead horse, I’ve been moving
away from as many Amazon smart home products as I can because of the security issues they’ve
had. In particular, the Ring services have been rather problematic with the access employees
have to videos,(fn) and more recently the moves they’ve been making with law enforcement
and providing access to Ring cameras.(fn) While Ring does require consent from the owner
of the camera to share any pertinent recordings, I find that use of their system a little problematic.
I see why some might find that compelling, but for me, my cameras are meant for my eyes
only. I’d rather not have a random company acting as a middleman between me and law enforcement. Floodlight cameras like this need to be hardwired
to power, so you’ll most likely be swapping out some kind of standard floodlight. If you’ve
never done electrical work like this, don’t be scared off. It’s really, really easy.
You just have to make sure you turn off the power at your electrical box and then get
to work. The instructions that come with the camera are excellent and give a good rundown
of what you need to do, and which wires connect. I got a little overeager and jumped right
to wiring up the camera and skipped a step, The camera comes with an indoor plug wired
up to the camera out of the box. It’s done this way to make it easier to activate the
camera inside your home before installing it outside, especially since the camera may
be in a very high or difficult to reach location. Mine is just above my garage door, so it’s
relatively easy to reach with a ladder, so I jumped right into wiring it up first. The actual in-app setup process is super simple
and easy to follow. Just like their other products, it has a really good first-time
user experience during setup. In the eufy Security app, you go into the menu and devices
section, tap add a device, and then select the Floodlight Camera. You’ll be walked through
waiting for the camera to power on and boot up, and then getting it activated and added
to your WiFi. And just like their other cameras, there’s even a great video that shows you
recommended mounting options. The options within the app are pretty basic.
You can turn the camera on and off, turn on auto night vision, and set motion detection
with zones to reduce notification frequency. It doesn’t have person or face detection,
but that’s not an issue from my experience with both the Ring and eufy Floodlight cameras.
With the motion detection zones it’s pretty easy to avoid street traffic and pedestrians.
You can also configure how you want the lights to work. They can come on for a set amount
of time when motion is detected or you can configure a specific schedule for them to
turn on and off. And unlike the Ring Floodlight, you’re also able to control the light brightness.
You can configure video recording length up to two minutes, as well as the cooldown period
before the next recording can start. And just like all of their cameras, you can
view live feeds, manually start a recording, sound the alarm, turn on the light, and use
two-way communication between the camera and the app. All of those features work just like
you’d expect, but the two-way communication has a minor lag. The camera has a 140-degree angle of view,
which is identical to the Ring Floodlight camera. And the floodlights are 2400 lumens,
so they’re very bright and provide good coverage of the area. Even though both the
Ring and eufy Floodlights are 1080p, I think the quality of the colors and image are slightly
better on the eufy. The Ring’s colors tend to be a little blown out, while eufy’s are
a little more natural in tone. Both are pretty heavily compressed, so you’re going to see
compression artifacts in the image. However, there’s enough sharpness and detail to read
something like a license plate about 50 feet away. One of the reasons I was interested in getting
a floodlight camera in the first place was to see when packages get delivered. We’ve
had problems with some delivery people leaving packages under the bush near the garage door
instead of by our front door, and sometimes right against the garage door itself. There
have been a couple of instances of someone backing the car out and running over a package
that nobody saw out there. Not great. Having a floodlight camera out there has been great
for keeping an eye on that. The motion detection on both the Ring and
eufy cameras has been good at picking up people when they get to mid-driveway, so it’s easy
to see when packages have been left behind. It’s also been fun to see what lurks around
our house at night … like killer bunnies. As you can see, nighttime videos, whether
with night vision or lit, are fairly similar. But the eufy has slightly better color. Subscriptions are where most people get frustrated
with these types of systems. Ring provides access to live streams and motion notifications
on their free plan, but to record video you need to pay up. The current pricing is $3
per month or $30 a year for the basic plan, which covers one Ring camera with 60 days
of video recordings. Jump up to $10 per month or $100 annually for the Protect Plus Plan
and you get all of your Ring cameras covered for 60 days. Compare that to eufy at no fee.
The camera has built-in 5 gigabytes of storage, which works out to something closer to 3.6
gigabytes of storage when you exclude system files. It’s still enough to record . Saving
those video files out to your photo library on your phone, and eufy has plans to add backup
support to their eufyCam hubs down the road. Sadly, there’s no RTSP support, so you can’t
save out video files to something like a Synology Diskstation on the fly. That’s something
their eufyCam E cameras can do, so I’d love to see that functionality added in at some
point here too. Now, this is the one area where I have to
knock eufy a bit because there are very limited integrations at the moment with all of their
products, not just this Floodlight Camera. Right now you can control and view camera
feeds from Amazon and Google devices that have a screen. I tested out using them with
a Google Home Hub and it worked exactly as advertised. You just ask the voice assistant
to show you the name of the camera and it will pull up a live stream. The only downside
I noticed was that it was sometimes slow to pull up the feed, but other than that, it
works pretty well. There’s no Apple Homekit or IFTTT support,
which is really disappointing. My main desire for IFTTT support in a camera like this is
to link it into my smart home automations. When my house is in away mode, I could flip
the cameras into a different mode to match, and vice versa. I could trigger a smart home
automation if motion is detected by one of the cameras. Typically with a floodlight security
camera like this, you aren’t going to be activating and deactivating it with geofencing,
so I don’t see that missing feature as a big deal for the Floodlight specifically.
But not being able to tie it into broader smart home features is a hole in the entire
product line at the moment. While Eufy was one of the brands highlighted
as supporting Apple’s new HomeKit Secure Video, which will give you encrypted cloud
video storage for your cameras, the Floodlight Camera doesn’t support that functionality
yet. And again, it’d also be nice to have RTSP support for this camera just like their
eufyCam E. Is the eufy Floodlight Camera for everyone?
No, but no product like this is. As I’ve said before, It’s all about compromises
and finding the system that ticks the boxes you’re looking for. For me, it’s very
close to the perfect solution, but just lacking on integrations. The camera build quality
is top-notch. The image quality and performance is excellent and on par with one of the better
Floodlight Cameras on the market. And the eufy Security app user experience is something
I give them super high marks for because too many of these systems have a sub-par experience.
Having my camera recordings stored in my home, encrypted, and completely in my control is
another big positive in my book. The only area I’m dinging the Floodlight
Camera, just like the others, is on integrations. IFTTT and Apple Homekit support would really
tip the Floodlight over the edge and broaden their customer base. I know building software
support into third party services like that can be challenging, and maybe on the product
roadmap somewhere, but without those integrations it’s going to keep some people from jumping
on board an otherwise great product. In the end, I’m impressed by it and have
found my Ring Floodlight replacement. If you need a wireless, floodlight camera that stores
files locally and doesn’t have a subscription fee, the eufy Floodlight Camera should be
one of the cameras at the top of your list. So what do you think? What are the features
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31 thoughts on “Ring Floodlight camera vs eufy Floodlight – wireless and no subscription fees FTW

  1. Matt Ferrell is one of the best content creators for smart home tech. I actually created my own channel Wright Near Home for more videos on smart home technology.

  2. Thanks for the review. The hit and miss RTSP support across their line is disappointing – if all their cameras supported that, I’d jump ship in a heartbeat.

  3. Another solid video! Are you using some type of display to project your script in front of the camera? If so I’d be interested to see a video on your setup, if it isn’t already on the channel.

  4. Flood lights LED bulbs replaceable if they burn out? This could be a serious flaw, if not.

  5. I think that all system running on any phone sucks, since you get new software for your phone, it is just a question about time befor lack of update from the camera APP, so it isn't working any longer…. # Haaris Ahmed : who cares!

  6. With new technology all seemingly going for wireless internet based operation what happens if your home is disconnected – either through a service provider outage or a potential criminal cutting your (often externally accessible) cable? Is there any backup device available that can provide an internal wireless network that will continue to function whist mainline internet is offline?

  7. I got the Eufy doorbell based on the other video, and it’s almost perfect. I should say this on the other video, but it’s too easy to steal, so I printed out an enclosure to secure it better.

  8. Another great video Matt. I appreciate how you discuss the privacy aspect. Local storage and recording is great. Eufy looks like a pretty good system.

  9. I've learned with years of video game experience that if you shoot out the lights and stay in the bushes you can remain hidden. That's tacticool!

  10. My top priorities for home automation sound like yours too, e.g. Privacy and lack of subscription. I know that subscription services are a strong business model [razor and razor blade], but I hate them. I was lead to eufy because of those features and your channel because of your eufy reviews. I’m mostly Apple in my technology products mostly because of my wife and simple integration. I’m leaning toward HomeKit for the appearance of privacy. Thanks for your time and video’s.

  11. How would you do remote video storage (without paid subscription) to protect from break in (where they steal the computer/camera).

  12. Thanks Matt – “welcome to DECIDED” Did I hear that right ?? (0:53)
    Love your work, thanks.

  13. Eufy doorbell has a great camera but the software/motion sensor is bad. Also it always disconnects from my wifi every week so I returned it.

  14. Great stuff, glad I found your channel. Privacy is a deal-breaker issue for me, so I'm always interested to learn of good non-data harvesting, no subscription products. Thanks and subscribed!

  15. I like the idea as well of local storage and control. However, with this device I have to say the lack of “network” storage is a turn off for me. Built in storage won’t protect me from someone ripping the unit off the mount unfortunately.

    I understand that there is a balance between features, power saving, price, etc and I don’t know a lot about cameras (yet – but the wife wants me to put these next on the list), but there must be cameras that have a ‘hub’ to control the smarts plus storage. This way it can be placed inside the home to add more protection to thrift?

    Love ya vids ????

  16. I can’t stand cool white lights, I prefer the softer warm lighting.

    Yeah, delivery people are idiots. Why is it so hard to leave packages near the front door, slightly out of sight to the street? So it doesn’t get stolen.

  17. Another great video. Have you used other “non-smart” Eufy and Anker products? And have plans to review them or highlight the ones you like?

  18. I know you said that a hardwire product doesn’t fit the needs of your home, but does Eufy or another company offer a similar product that is PoE hardwired? Thanks!

  19. How does the eufy store the video footage locally?

    Wireless or wired/ sd card storage?

  20. You're forgetting one benefit of devices with cloud storage…. it's all offsite. If you have only localized storage and your house burns down, or you get a burglar that's smart enough to grab your hub/nas, you're SOL. With cloud storage, especially those that use AWS, Google or Azure, the data is repeated so much it's virtually impossible for it to ever be gone. For cameras that are mainly outside anyway it's not really a huge privacy concern, unless you're doing some freaky stuff in your yard. For Alexa they say they only record stuff that's said after the wake word, so unless you get a lot of false positives it shouldn't be a huge privacy concern either.

    If cost is your main issue, then I understand that, but if privacy is your only worry I think you might be worrying about nothing. Unless your a CIA agent regularly discussing state secrets out loud in your home you're probably pretty safe.

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  22. I plan on switching out my security from Ring I wonder if there is a market for second and products for resale.

  23. Hey Matt, nice video once again, to bad it was of no use for me right now, since i live in a apartment building with a shared front door. Still love watching your video's they are great.

  24. Does Eufy floodlight hook into the Eufy hub if you have one for more local storage?

  25. Thank you for the Monty Python! I need to upgrade a couple of floodlights and this may fit the bill. Do you think they will build Apple home kit integration into these cameras in the future? My only cam right now is an old dropcam taken over by google nest and I do pay for cloud storage. Have not made the leap into storing the video locally yet. I need to learn how to do that frankly. I’ll go back to your smart home videos and check out your recommendations. Thanks so much for the reviews! They really do help! Even poor environmental engineers trying to stay moderately current in computer / electronics tech! Cheers!

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